NewsReal Blog Interview with John Yoo, Part 1: Harsh Interrogations were Justified

2010 March 5

John Yoo is currently a professor of law at the University of California, Berkeley. From 2001 to 2003 he was a deputy assistant attorney general in the Office of Legal Council at the U.S. Department of Justice. It was during this time that he co-authored the Bybee memo defining torture and American Habeas Corpus which was the legal basis for the CIA’s harsh interrogation techniques. He is the author of The Powers of War and Peace: Foreign Affairs and the Constitution after 9/11, War By Other Means: An Insider’s Account of the War on Terror and Crisis and Command: A History of Executive Power from George Washington to George W. Bush. NewsReal Blog had the pleasure of interviewing him on a wide range of issues.

NewsReal Blog: Congressman McDermott (D-WA) recently tried to sneak in a provision in the intelligence appropriations bill. The provision would allow for criminal prosecution of CIA officers if they committed acts of “cruel, inhuman, or degrading behavior.” What is your opinion of this provision?

John Yoo: It is unwise for Congress to use criminal laws to restrict the President’s wartime policies. The President needs to defend the powers of the office to protect this country. This provision is way too ambiguous. What it does is try to expand criminal law beyond what is torture. It would have subjected our intelligence agents to criminal sanctions that are vague and undefined.

NRB: Do you still think the enhanced techniques were beneficial in gaining actionable intelligence?

Yoo: Our intelligence service was doing what they thought was right at that time. Intelligence professionals know what they are doing. Despite what this administration is saying and doing the intelligence professionals have been very successful at preventing future attacks.

NRB: Do you think Attorney General Holder should be reopening the investigation of CIA officers?

Yoo: It’s a witch hunt. The Department of Justice (DOJ) will cause irreparable harm to the intelligence agency. People will become risk averse because they won’t want to be the subject of an investigation, even if at the end they are cleared. Remember the DOJ reopened cases that were closed by CAREER federal prosecutors who chose not to prosecute the CIA. This is politics, not a judgment of law.

NRB: What would you like to say about the Department of Justice’s investigation, accusing you of violating professional ethics?

Yoo: I am upset that the Attorney General allowed this outrageous case to go forward. The President could have stopped all these ridiculous investigations (his and the CIA officers). David Margolis, the senior DOJ attorney wrote a 69 page memo that rejected the ethics office’s recommendations. His memo was a serious indictment of the people that worked at the DOJ. We did nothing unethical. It was a difference in judgment. I found out that Senator Jeff Sessions (R-AL-the lead Republican on the Judiciary Committee) called for an ethics investigation of the DOJ. The DOJ should live by the same rules and the same scrutiny they are trying to subject others to.

Editor’s Note: Stay tuned for Part 2 of this interview.


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  1. March 6, 2010

    John Yoo knows the enemy and the nature of the enemy, and knows how to deal with them.
    He also knows we are at war with an indefatigueable enemy. They must be stopped at all
    costs. Our national security is at stake. I have no confidence in the Obama administration,
    and every day we go without experiencing another terrorist attack, I know it's by the grace of
    God, and I thank God for those who haven't bowed to political correctness.

    • March 6, 2010

      You say rightly Ron and the war goes on, we will have to pay a high price for the
      folly of Americans voting in Obama and destruction. November can not get here
      quickly enough. ………Regards, William

  2. March 6, 2010

    Professor Yoo has been toiling in the enemy fields for some time. UC Berkeley's Boalt Hall School of Law is not exactly anyone's ideal of the best place to be as a conservative, originalist professor. He survived it, and is well thought-of by his fellows, including the largely liberal faculty. But his best performance so far came, in all places, on Jon Stewart's Daily Show. By about halfway through the show, Stewart's snark had nearly disappeared, and he found himself agreeing with Yoo. At the end, in total self-amazement, Stewart admitted he actually liked Yoo, and would like to have him again as a guest. Yoo is both unflappable and has a sense of humor, things sadly lacking if far too many self-important law professors. It's no wonder the DOJ caved in on persecuting him when they realized Yoo had every intention of fighting back.

  3. March 6, 2010

    In my opinion, John Yoo, and his supporters, are fascist pieces of filth; not fit to call themselves Americans. The Nazis, GRU, KGB, Khymer Rouge, Tontons Macout. John Yoo sought to add the United States Department of Justice to this list. There is a special place in Hell for him and his ilk.

    • March 7, 2010

      Please note that the GU, KGB and Pol Pot's gang were Marxists. The Nazi's were not, they charged toward communism through progressive socialism from the right and are Fascists.

  4. March 7, 2010

    Trevor Urban is suffering hysterics, and should sober up

    Just think what you would do if you had to choose, you hypocrite: to be arrested by one of the agencies you declare are on a par with american intelligence, or by your own people!

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