Ayaan Hirsi makes some very good and true points regarding the shortcomings of Muslim men’s treatment of women today, but she makes many false statements mixed in with the true. Ms Quraishi’s point to Ayaan Hirsi to view the whole picture was very appropriate. There is a long tradition of Islamic jurisprudence that can not be washed away by modern fundamentalist views or anti-Islamic views which both discard years of intellectual religious tradition. Asifa Quraishi is one of many examples of Muslim women who are strong, intelligent and making a difference to promote a compassionate, progressive and all-inclusive view of women. And she is able to do that within her faith.

And the Badger Herald, same on them, highlights within their story, with not account of Ayanns swift, powerful and prudent response –

UW constitutional law professor Asifa Quraishi cautioned audience members during a question and answer period not to take Hirsi Ali’s message as the whole story.

“I advise all of us to take a pause and think that maybe there is a little bit more to this story than we have heard tonight,” – Quraishi

Quraishi, who opened her message of "caution" by extolling herself and her Harvard credentials for many minutes that could have been better spent by fielding questions from the audience.

The appointment of Asifa Quraishi as a public delegate to the UN Commission is a disgrace, Yet another Obama attempt to straddle the issue, as he seems to do in every case that it is politically “correct” to do so. When it is politically convenient (or calculatedly advantageous) however, Mr. Obama is all one way. He’s a Black man. This is a man who could take a lesson from a true black leader and unifier such as Nelson Mandela.

The bargain is as follows: the free West will offer up some freedoms in return for oil and money. I wonder who will run out first?

It is obvious you haven't read her book nor have you seen the short film Submission. The man who made the film with her was killed by a Muslim who remains in jail today, the threat on her life was stabbed into his chest.

You are obviously ignorant about Islam. The one book you quote may have good historical context about gender separation, but it isn't the only one.

Ayan Hirsi Ali also was raised Muslim in several Muslim and sharia dominated countries. Noni Darwish and Wafa Sultan as well speak very clearly about the history of the veiling of women and gender rolls, these women have actually lived it.

I fail to see where defining Islam as a totalitarian ideology, where women are considered worth half a man, her testimony in court is worth half a man, where if a woman is raped she is the one prosecuted for adultery… the list can go on.

In my opinion any ideology/religion that codifies the acceptability of domestic abuse into its dogma is worthy of nothing by contempt. Yes wife beating is okay according to the Islamic book of hate the Qu'ran.

In case you come back with the old "it's cultural, not religious" line: Muslims tell us that Islam covers every aspect of life. Why have centuries of Islam done nothing to end clitorectomies or forced marriages to old uncles or killing daughters for not shrouding themselves?

And that fatwa against Hirsi Ali: I suppose that's a mark against her in your book. Nothing to do with Islam, of course.

And for all you feminists who think change for women can never come from within Islam, read Women and Gender in Islam by Leila Ahmed. This Muslim feminist can help you see things in a more balanced way – if you're interested in real change and not the kind of hawkish intolerance that has characterized a number of feminists' attitude towards Islam in particular and religion in general.

What makes it rather difficult to debate with these people at all, just as with for example postmodernists and cultural marxists (like Obama), is the idea in these ideologies that one is permitted to bend the rules of logic or flatout lie when intellectually challenged. In Islam it is called Taqiyya: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiyya

I opposed the 'equal rights' movement specifically because it REDUCED liberties and rights to a common level that was and is less than the full birth right of every human. I don't want equal rights, I want FULL rights. Such a concept is beyond the grasp of most organizations that purport to be for a minority's rights.

I shall visit often and watch to see if FULL rights continues to be the focus. In the meantime, you might not consider me a hawk, so accept my own description as a Falcon…