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		<title>By: Xian Do</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2010/02/07/the-jezebel-guide-to-questioning-womens-femininity/#comment-49481</link>
		<dc:creator>Xian Do</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Earl Kirkpatrick... 
I tried to answer your question about why the word &quot;gay&quot; is so prevalent when discussing homosexuality...but the site admins keep deleting my comment. 
I guess they don&#039;t want you to know. 
Sorry. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Earl Kirkpatrick&#8230;<br />
I tried to answer your question about why the word &quot;gay&quot; is so prevalent when discussing homosexuality&#8230;but the site admins keep deleting my comment.<br />
I guess they don&#39;t want you to know.<br />
Sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: DavidSwindle</title>
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		<dc:creator>DavidSwindle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The comments that you&#039;re complaining about being deleted were automatically deleted because you used gay slurs in them. Such terms have been added to our blacklist of words which automatically cause comments to get deleted. We don&#039;t permit people to use demeaning terms for gays here at NewsReal Blog.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comments that you&#039;re complaining about being deleted were automatically deleted because you used gay slurs in them. Such terms have been added to our blacklist of words which automatically cause comments to get deleted. We don&#039;t permit people to use demeaning terms for gays here at NewsReal Blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Xian Do</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2010/02/07/the-jezebel-guide-to-questioning-womens-femininity/#comment-49482</link>
		<dc:creator>Xian Do</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 10:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...but you might try reading &quot;After The Ball: How America Will Conquer It&#039;s Fear &amp; Hatred of Gays in the 90&#039;s&quot; by Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen. 
That will answer your questions. 
(Hopefully, they won&#039;t delete this comment either!) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;but you might try reading &quot;After The Ball: How America Will Conquer It&#039;s Fear &amp; Hatred of Gays in the 90&#039;s&quot; by Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen.<br />
That will answer your questions.<br />
(Hopefully, they won&#039;t delete this comment either!)</p>
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		<title>By: Xian Do</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2010/02/07/the-jezebel-guide-to-questioning-womens-femininity/#comment-49479</link>
		<dc:creator>Xian Do</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 10:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Earl Kirkpatrick, 
In the book &quot;After the Ball: How America Will Conquer its Fear and Hatred of Gays in the 90&#039;s&quot; by Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen, the term &#039;gay&#039; was regarded as more &quot;marketable&quot; and more &quot;palatable&quot; to the public when discussing homosexuality. 
And &quot;marketing&quot; is the key here. 
 
If you look back at the gains in the homosexual movement over the past 25 years, you will notice that not once has there been a monumental scientific breakthrough regarding homosexuality, its origins, or its fundamental nature.  All of the social &amp; political gains the homosexual community has made since the 1980&#039;s has been almost entirely a wildly successful P.R. campaign foisted on the public.  
The homosexual community could&#039;ve claimed and embraced any slur against them...&quot;homo&quot;, &quot;fag&quot;, &quot;queer&quot;, etc...but the term &quot;gay&quot; was the most marketable. 
 
Interestingly, the term &quot;homo&quot; would&#039;ve been more scientifically &amp; definitely accurate of all of them...but &quot;gay&quot; just sounded more appealing. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Earl Kirkpatrick,<br />
In the book &quot;After the Ball: How America Will Conquer its Fear and Hatred of Gays in the 90&#039;s&quot; by Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen, the term &#039;gay&#039; was regarded as more &quot;marketable&quot; and more &quot;palatable&quot; to the public when discussing homosexuality.<br />
And &quot;marketing&quot; is the key here. </p>
<p>If you look back at the gains in the homosexual movement over the past 25 years, you will notice that not once has there been a monumental scientific breakthrough regarding homosexuality, its origins, or its fundamental nature.  All of the social &amp; political gains the homosexual community has made since the 1980&#039;s has been almost entirely a wildly successful P.R. campaign foisted on the public.<br />
The homosexual community could&#039;ve claimed and embraced any slur against them&#8230;&quot;homo&quot;, &quot;fag&quot;, &quot;queer&quot;, etc&#8230;but the term &quot;gay&quot; was the most marketable. </p>
<p>Interestingly, the term &quot;homo&quot; would&#039;ve been more scientifically &amp; definitely accurate of all of them&#8230;but &quot;gay&quot; just sounded more appealing.</p>
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		<title>By: When Can You Call a Woman Masculine? : Jenn Q. Public</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2010/02/07/the-jezebel-guide-to-questioning-womens-femininity/#comment-49469</link>
		<dc:creator>When Can You Call a Woman Masculine? : Jenn Q. Public</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 08:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] My latest article at NewsReal looks at when it&#8217;s okay to question a woman&#8217;s femininity. Check out the double standard: Last week, noted feminist Keith Olbermann implied that the women of Fox News are only hired because they’re attractive.  In response, The Daily Caller’s Jim Treacher posted a photo gallery of women who work for MSNBC. When he got to Rachel Maddow, Treacher wrote, “Whoops, how did that one get in there? Sorry, man. I mean dude. I mean Rachel! Sorry, Rachel.” [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] My latest article at NewsReal looks at when it&#8217;s okay to question a woman&#8217;s femininity. Check out the double standard: Last week, noted feminist Keith Olbermann implied that the women of Fox News are only hired because they’re attractive.  In response, The Daily Caller’s Jim Treacher posted a photo gallery of women who work for MSNBC. When he got to Rachel Maddow, Treacher wrote, “Whoops, how did that one get in there? Sorry, man. I mean dude. I mean Rachel! Sorry, Rachel.” [...]</p>
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		<title>By: @RedAlertsBlog</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2010/02/07/the-jezebel-guide-to-questioning-womens-femininity/#comment-49391</link>
		<dc:creator>@RedAlertsBlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 06:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why must shut ins hijack perfectly good threads for their inconsequential personal issues?  
 
Although I must admit it was amusing for a trucker to call others perverted when there is an entire sub-culture of hookers that just service your industry. Why must truckers hijack the perfectly good term lot lizard? 
 
By the way I&#039;m not sure Chaucer invented the word gay though he popularized it to some extent. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why must shut ins hijack perfectly good threads for their inconsequential personal issues?  </p>
<p>Although I must admit it was amusing for a trucker to call others perverted when there is an entire sub-culture of hookers that just service your industry. Why must truckers hijack the perfectly good term lot lizard? </p>
<p>By the way I&#39;m not sure Chaucer invented the word gay though he popularized it to some extent.</p>
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		<title>By: GrrrlRomeo</title>
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		<dc:creator>GrrrlRomeo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 05:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wasn&#039;t using queer as a synonym for gay and lesbian. I was referring to queer people. If I was talking about gays and lesbians I would&#039;ve just said gay people. 
 
I&#039;m not reaching. The Daily Caller didn&#039;t say Rachel Maddow was just butch or mannish, but they actually called her a man. Man, woman and genderqueer refer to a person&#039;s gender identity. Trangender describes someone who identifies as a gender other than the one they were assigned at birth.  
 
Effeminate men, butch women, Drag Kings, Drag Queens, and anyone who doesn&#039;t conform to the archetype of their culture for gender expression and behavior are gender variant. And it is indeed aversion to gender variance and transgenderism that is at the root of these insults more than aversion to just homosexuality. 
 
I&#039;m very aware that there are masculine gay men and feminine gay women (or lesbian if you prefer, I mean I don&#039;t know if you find calling women gay offensive too) who separate themselves. And I suppose they can just assume I&#039;m not talking about them when I say queer and go assimilate or something. 
 
The point I was trying to make was that Peter LaBarbera refers to Amanda Simpson as a man, a gender other than the one she identifies as. Is that also just a juvenile insult? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#39;t using queer as a synonym for gay and lesbian. I was referring to queer people. If I was talking about gays and lesbians I would&#39;ve just said gay people. </p>
<p>I&#39;m not reaching. The Daily Caller didn&#39;t say Rachel Maddow was just butch or mannish, but they actually called her a man. Man, woman and genderqueer refer to a person&#39;s gender identity. Trangender describes someone who identifies as a gender other than the one they were assigned at birth.  </p>
<p>Effeminate men, butch women, Drag Kings, Drag Queens, and anyone who doesn&#39;t conform to the archetype of their culture for gender expression and behavior are gender variant. And it is indeed aversion to gender variance and transgenderism that is at the root of these insults more than aversion to just homosexuality. </p>
<p>I&#39;m very aware that there are masculine gay men and feminine gay women (or lesbian if you prefer, I mean I don&#39;t know if you find calling women gay offensive too) who separate themselves. And I suppose they can just assume I&#39;m not talking about them when I say queer and go assimilate or something. </p>
<p>The point I was trying to make was that Peter LaBarbera refers to Amanda Simpson as a man, a gender other than the one she identifies as. Is that also just a juvenile insult?</p>
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		<title>By: Lori</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2010/02/07/the-jezebel-guide-to-questioning-womens-femininity/#comment-49280</link>
		<dc:creator>Lori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 02:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s simply juvenile and banal to discuss a person&#039;s merits (or demerits) based on their appearance. Period. Double if they are in politics. Triple if they are relatives of people in politics. 
 
 Both sides do it and it&#039;s f#%#ing  stupid. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#39;s simply juvenile and banal to discuss a person&#39;s merits (or demerits) based on their appearance. Period. Double if they are in politics. Triple if they are relatives of people in politics. </p>
<p> Both sides do it and it&#39;s f#%#ing  stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: @RedAlertsBlog</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2010/02/07/the-jezebel-guide-to-questioning-womens-femininity/#comment-49388</link>
		<dc:creator>@RedAlertsBlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 01:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me guess, you&#039;ve read Gender Outlaw in a writing class? Your entire thesis is based on the desperate attempt by the idle nouveau riche to ensure that everyone has access to minority status so they can wallow in supposed victim hood indefinitely. 
 
In doing so you make bigoted sweeping statements about straight people in an attempt to do to them what you claim is being done to you. I don&#039;t think it&#039;s acceptable to insult gays and have many gay readers of my radically right blog. Unlike the &quot;queers&quot; you speak of which include everyone from RuPaul to male nurses I was the only person to point out that Angie Zapata, the tranny murdered by some degenerate, deserved better than people claiming Allen Andrade was not responsible for his actions by way &quot;gay rage&quot; or whatever. Your loving queer community excused his behavior with a fantasy that Zapata&#039;s murderer was brainwashed by hetero normitivity into panicking when he found out Zapata was transgendered. None report the fact that Andrade was in court with Zapata when Zapata was called as Justin. 
 
So who hates &quot;queers&quot; here? The evil straight guy who wanted Allen Andrade put to death for murdering someone or you and your ilk who excused him? 
 
And rightwing watch? Really? Where was Rightwing Watch when DailyKos banned a Black man after allowing several of their top diarists call him a monkey? Where was Right Wing Watch when Pandagon wrote a smear piece on me implying I was gay, and used it as an insult? 
 
You can come here pretending to be oppressed but you&#039;re clearly the bigot here. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me guess, you&#039;ve read Gender Outlaw in a writing class? Your entire thesis is based on the desperate attempt by the idle nouveau riche to ensure that everyone has access to minority status so they can wallow in supposed victim hood indefinitely. </p>
<p>In doing so you make bigoted sweeping statements about straight people in an attempt to do to them what you claim is being done to you. I don&#039;t think it&#039;s acceptable to insult gays and have many gay readers of my radically right blog. Unlike the &quot;queers&quot; you speak of which include everyone from RuPaul to male nurses I was the only person to point out that Angie Zapata, the tranny murdered by some degenerate, deserved better than people claiming Allen Andrade was not responsible for his actions by way &quot;gay rage&quot; or whatever. Your loving queer community excused his behavior with a fantasy that Zapata&#039;s murderer was brainwashed by hetero normitivity into panicking when he found out Zapata was transgendered. None report the fact that Andrade was in court with Zapata when Zapata was called as Justin. </p>
<p>So who hates &quot;queers&quot; here? The evil straight guy who wanted Allen Andrade put to death for murdering someone or you and your ilk who excused him? </p>
<p>And rightwing watch? Really? Where was Rightwing Watch when DailyKos banned a Black man after allowing several of their top diarists call him a monkey? Where was Right Wing Watch when Pandagon wrote a smear piece on me implying I was gay, and used it as an insult? </p>
<p>You can come here pretending to be oppressed but you&#039;re clearly the bigot here.</p>
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		<title>By: JennQPublic</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2010/02/07/the-jezebel-guide-to-questioning-womens-femininity/#comment-49354</link>
		<dc:creator>JennQPublic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 00:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is Peter LaBarbera calling Amanda Simpson a man just a juvenile insult? No, I think that&#039;s what he believes. The onus is on transpeople and their allies to change hearts and minds. 
 
You seem to be here just to pick a fight.  How&#039;s that working out as a strategy for winning people over? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Peter LaBarbera calling Amanda Simpson a man just a juvenile insult? No, I think that&#039;s what he believes. The onus is on transpeople and their allies to change hearts and minds. </p>
<p>You seem to be here just to pick a fight.  How&#039;s that working out as a strategy for winning people over?</p>
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		<title>By: Earl Kirkpatrick</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2010/02/07/the-jezebel-guide-to-questioning-womens-femininity/#comment-49350</link>
		<dc:creator>Earl Kirkpatrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 00:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why does everyone use the word &quot;gay&quot; to describe homosexuality?  The word gay was invented by a 14 or 15th century author named  Chaucer.  He used it to describe people that enjoyed life, were happy,  and &quot;got along&quot;.  Then, along came the homosexuals,  misused the word to describe their , perverted lifestyle.  (That is MY own opinion), and due to political correctness, it stuck.  An example:  I am retired after driving a truck for 21 years.  Long ago, it was a compliment to call someone a &quot;good buddy&quot;  Here come the homosexuals again!  That phrase has been hijacked too.  The homosexuals now use it to make their &quot;connections&quot; by cb radio.  It is no longer a polite phrase, now it is an insult.  Why must homosexuals hijack perfectly good words and phrases to describe their lifestyle? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does everyone use the word &quot;gay&quot; to describe homosexuality?  The word gay was invented by a 14 or 15th century author named  Chaucer.  He used it to describe people that enjoyed life, were happy,  and &quot;got along&quot;.  Then, along came the homosexuals,  misused the word to describe their , perverted lifestyle.  (That is MY own opinion), and due to political correctness, it stuck.  An example:  I am retired after driving a truck for 21 years.  Long ago, it was a compliment to call someone a &quot;good buddy&quot;  Here come the homosexuals again!  That phrase has been hijacked too.  The homosexuals now use it to make their &quot;connections&quot; by cb radio.  It is no longer a polite phrase, now it is an insult.  Why must homosexuals hijack perfectly good words and phrases to describe their lifestyle?</p>
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		<title>By: JennQPublic</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2010/02/07/the-jezebel-guide-to-questioning-womens-femininity/#comment-49330</link>
		<dc:creator>JennQPublic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 23:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I intentionally included the T in LGBT to make the point that you were sweeping people of many gender identities into one category that many of them reject. Nice try. I have no problem with you identifying as queer - more power to you. I simply don&#039;t accept it as a synonym for gay and lesbian. 
 
Did someone at The Daily Caller call Rachel Maddow transgendered? I don&#039;t see any evidence of that. You&#039;re reaching - they joked about her masculine appearance, they didn&#039;t say anything about her gender identity. 
 
Also, I&#039;m not sure what point you&#039;re trying to make by dropping links about Peter LaBarbera&#039;s bigoted nonsense. I think we&#039;d both agree he&#039;s a tool. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I intentionally included the T in LGBT to make the point that you were sweeping people of many gender identities into one category that many of them reject. Nice try. I have no problem with you identifying as queer &#8211; more power to you. I simply don&#039;t accept it as a synonym for gay and lesbian. </p>
<p>Did someone at The Daily Caller call Rachel Maddow transgendered? I don&#039;t see any evidence of that. You&#039;re reaching &#8211; they joked about her masculine appearance, they didn&#039;t say anything about her gender identity. </p>
<p>Also, I&#039;m not sure what point you&#039;re trying to make by dropping links about Peter LaBarbera&#039;s bigoted nonsense. I think we&#039;d both agree he&#039;s a tool.</p>
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