Comments on: From the Pen of David Horowitz: December 4, 2009 http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/12/04/from-the-pen-of-david-horowitz-december-4-2009/ Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:34:39 +0000 hourly 1 By: Sol Pitchon http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/12/04/from-the-pen-of-david-horowitz-december-4-2009/#comment-33844 Sol Pitchon Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:09:32 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=17181#comment-33844 Basically I insist in having the SUPREME COURT, if they are to do their job, which they have neglected, ENFORCE THE CONSTITUTION AND DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE. If they did, Obama's violations would be null and void, and the argument would be over. Basically I insist in having the SUPREME COURT, if they are to do their job, which they have neglected, ENFORCE THE CONSTITUTION AND DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE. If they did, Obama’s violations would be null and void, and the argument would be over.

]]> By: Ron Livaudais http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/12/04/from-the-pen-of-david-horowitz-december-4-2009/#comment-31489 Ron Livaudais Sat, 05 Dec 2009 19:02:37 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=17181#comment-31489 In a free society there must be restraints. The Declaration of Independence listed the grievances of King George that oppressed a free people. The Constitution was created to spell out the limits of govt., their responsibility to protect us from criminals foreign and domestic, and to minimally tax us to keep a 'small' administration running. The Constitution also enumerates our freedoms, as long as we don't infringe on the freedoms of others. The essence of democracy with the rule of law is for a free people to interact on a voluntary basis, with no coercion from the govt. or outside groups. In a free society there must be restraints. The Declaration of Independence listed
the grievances of King George that oppressed a free people.
The Constitution was created to spell out the limits of govt., their responsibility
to protect us from criminals foreign and domestic, and to minimally tax us to
keep a ‘small’ administration running. The Constitution also enumerates our freedoms,
as long as we don’t infringe on the freedoms of others. The essence of democracy with
the rule of law is for a free people to interact on a voluntary basis, with no coercion
from the govt. or outside groups.

]]> By: Richard http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/12/04/from-the-pen-of-david-horowitz-december-4-2009/#comment-31488 Richard Sat, 05 Dec 2009 17:00:32 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=17181#comment-31488 The basic tenet is that adults are supposed to protectchildren and help them grow up to be well balanced and productive adults. The facts that we have too many sexually deviate adults fixated on imposing their urges on the bodies and minds of our young is troubling. Our society has the right to control the efforts of these adults in subverting the natural impulses of our young for acceptance and love. If we are going to confuse freedom and license then we are talking past each other. Free enterprise does not mean a license to extort and misrepresent. You are to come to the market in a honest manner and state your intentions. Drugs and prostitution are not free market commodities because we do care about our children. We are willing to restrain our unbridles urges to protect our families. Ask Tiger Woods if money and freedom have protected his family? The young people are compelled to go to school. Is that only to help them or does it help us? We protect our children because we have to protect ourselves. The basic tenet is that adults are supposed to protectchildren and help them grow up to be well balanced and productive adults. The facts that we have too many sexually deviate adults fixated on imposing their urges on the bodies and minds of our young is troubling. Our society has the right to control the efforts of these adults in subverting the natural impulses of our young for acceptance and love. If we are going to confuse freedom and license then we are talking past each other. Free enterprise does not mean a license to extort and misrepresent. You are to come to the market in a honest manner and state your intentions. Drugs and prostitution are not free market commodities because we do care about our children. We are willing to restrain our unbridles urges to protect our families. Ask Tiger Woods if money and freedom have protected his family? The young people are compelled to go to school. Is that only to help them or does it help us? We protect our children because we have to protect ourselves.

]]> By: David Swindle http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/12/04/from-the-pen-of-david-horowitz-december-4-2009/#comment-31487 David Swindle Sat, 05 Dec 2009 13:46:21 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=17181#comment-31487 Just because the culture says something is morally OK it doesn't mean it's OK. But what do YOU use to determine that child rape is wrong? Just because the culture says something is morally OK it doesn’t mean it’s OK.

But what do YOU use to determine that child rape is wrong?

]]> By: Ruy Diaz http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/12/04/from-the-pen-of-david-horowitz-december-4-2009/#comment-31486 Ruy Diaz Sat, 05 Dec 2009 12:25:24 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=17181#comment-31486 What if the consensus breaks down? Will sex with children be okay then? (Note: I agree with Mr. Horowitz in the article. It is just the reasoning behind "there is a pretty broad cultural consensus" I'm criticizing.) What if the consensus breaks down? Will sex with children be okay then?

(Note: I agree with Mr. Horowitz in the article. It is just the reasoning behind “there is a pretty broad cultural consensus” I’m criticizing.)

]]> By: David Swindle http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/12/04/from-the-pen-of-david-horowitz-december-4-2009/#comment-31485 David Swindle Fri, 04 Dec 2009 22:02:21 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=17181#comment-31485 It's illegal to have sex with children. Thus child prostitution and child pornography should be illegal. What's there to debate about here? There's pretty broad cultural consensus on this. It’s illegal to have sex with children. Thus child prostitution and child pornography should be illegal. What’s there to debate about here? There’s pretty broad cultural consensus on this.

]]> By: Brad http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/12/04/from-the-pen-of-david-horowitz-december-4-2009/#comment-31475 Brad Fri, 04 Dec 2009 20:51:02 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=17181#comment-31475 David, I'm glad to see you personally believe that when it comes to children--prostitution and pornography should be outlawed, but on what basis? However, if that is based upon your "own sensibilities and ideas," why should the "rest of us...humor them?" "Elites of all political persuasions may find democracy offensive to their own sensibilities and ideas. Sometimes, they may even make common cause with their ideological enemies to force on everybody else their ideas of what’s best. But, for the sake of our democracy and ourselves, the rest of us better not humor them." If we are to have standards--whose??? David, I’m glad to see you personally believe that when it comes to children–prostitution and pornography should be outlawed, but on what basis? However, if that is based upon your “own sensibilities and ideas,” why should the “rest of us…humor them?”

“Elites of all political persuasions may find democracy offensive to their own sensibilities and ideas. Sometimes, they may even make common cause with their ideological enemies to force on everybody else their ideas of what’s best. But, for the sake of our democracy and ourselves, the rest of us better not humor them.”

If we are to have standards–whose???

]]> By: David Swindle http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/12/04/from-the-pen-of-david-horowitz-december-4-2009/#comment-31476 David Swindle Fri, 04 Dec 2009 19:29:42 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=17181#comment-31476 Child pornography and child prostitution should be outlawed. But in general I'm pretty libertarian on these matters. Gambling, prostitution, and drugs should be legal but properly regulated. Child pornography and child prostitution should be outlawed. But in general I’m pretty libertarian on these matters. Gambling, prostitution, and drugs should be legal but properly regulated.

]]> By: Carterthewriter http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/12/04/from-the-pen-of-david-horowitz-december-4-2009/#comment-31483 Carterthewriter Fri, 04 Dec 2009 14:42:49 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=17181#comment-31483 What I gather from this disertation is that we the people judge what we decide to do with our earnings, not a bureaucrat. If an automaker make a bad product, would you buy the product because it was the patriotic thing to do, obviously not. Extremist within both parties want to dictate what you should do through legislative actions that reach beyond the intent of this nations principles. What a mess. Let free enterprise work. What I gather from this disertation is that we the people judge what we decide to do with our earnings, not a bureaucrat.

If an automaker make a bad product, would you buy the product because it was the patriotic thing to do, obviously not.

Extremist within both parties want to dictate what you should do through legislative actions that reach beyond the intent of this nations principles.

What a mess. Let free enterprise work.

]]> By: Seek http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/12/04/from-the-pen-of-david-horowitz-december-4-2009/#comment-31481 Seek Fri, 04 Dec 2009 14:27:47 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=17181#comment-31481 Why does cinema have to be certified as "conservative" before a conservative (like me) will watch. There are plenty of films without any political message at all. I see them. Does that make a traitor to my cause? Why does cinema have to be certified as “conservative” before a conservative (like me) will watch. There are plenty of films without any political message at all. I see them. Does that make a traitor to my cause?

]]> By: Frank http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/12/04/from-the-pen-of-david-horowitz-december-4-2009/#comment-31482 Frank Fri, 04 Dec 2009 14:27:46 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=17181#comment-31482 I too am a conservative and die-hard free market capitalist. I agree with everything David says in this short piece. How would this thinking apply to things like prostitution and drug use? If the market wants them... I too am a conservative and die-hard free market capitalist. I agree with everything David says in this short piece. How would this thinking apply to things like prostitution and drug use? If the market wants them…

]]> By: Brad http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/12/04/from-the-pen-of-david-horowitz-december-4-2009/#comment-31480 Brad Fri, 04 Dec 2009 13:59:15 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=17181#comment-31480 It is a conundrum, to be sure. But, using this Free Market & Democracy rule, which you advocate, and encourage the rest of us to accept, would anything be "outlawed?" And, if so, on what basis? It is a conundrum, to be sure. But, using this Free Market & Democracy rule, which you advocate, and encourage the rest of us to accept, would anything be “outlawed?” And, if so, on what basis?

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