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	<title>Comments on: Yes, Virginia, There Is a Religious Left</title>
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		<title>By: Shame of the Vatican &#171; Calvin Freiburger Online</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/11/12/yes-virginia-there-is-a-religious-left/#comment-110357</link>
		<dc:creator>Shame of the Vatican &#171; Calvin Freiburger Online</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 04:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of the&#160;Vatican June 5, 2010 &#8212; Calvin Freiburger   Sadly, organized religion is more supportive of the Left than many conservatives are willing to admit.  Now, perhaps the most disgraceful [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of the&nbsp;Vatican June 5, 2010 &#8212; Calvin Freiburger   Sadly, organized religion is more supportive of the Left than many conservatives are willing to admit.  Now, perhaps the most disgraceful [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/11/12/yes-virginia-there-is-a-religious-left/#comment-25470</link>
		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Janet, I hope you were not fooled by bush and his family, you are so right, the church has leaned the other way. I am not sure we can believe/trust the Catholic Agenda. They once ruled our Government, are they trying to rule it again? It didn&#039;t work then , It sure won&#039;t work now, neither will the Muslim/ Islam world take over.....trust me!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Janet, I hope you were not fooled by bush and his family, you are so right, the church has leaned the other way. I am not sure we can believe/trust the Catholic Agenda. They once ruled our Government, are they trying to rule it again? It didn&#8217;t work then , It sure won&#8217;t work now, neither will the Muslim/ Islam world take over&#8230;..trust me!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: The Two Malcontents &#187; An Eye-Opening Account of Health Care Lobbying</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/11/12/yes-virginia-there-is-a-religious-left/#comment-25469</link>
		<dc:creator>The Two Malcontents &#187; An Eye-Opening Account of Health Care Lobbying</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on the Newsrealblog associated with Frontpagemag.com, Calvin Freiburger points out that the official position of the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Guy DeWhitney</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/11/12/yes-virginia-there-is-a-religious-left/#comment-25474</link>
		<dc:creator>Guy DeWhitney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This tactic will either prove to be a brilliant way to keep the Left from making the health care bill &quot;universal&quot;, or it will backfire completely; a way of drowning the baby while saving the bathwater.

The Left will either keep abortion for poor women funded by limiting the government run health program, or they will shrug their shoulders and laugh off one of their pretend values to grasp the power offered. Then they will use that power.  And such provisions can always be cut out of the law at a later date.

It was pointed out in comments recently that the hard Left has no real agenda other than taking power into their own hands.  The question here is how firm are they in true support of free/low cost abortions?  The Obama administration has already shown that it is willing to shrug off interest groups long dear to liberal hearts.

By using the health bill to force an abortion concession are the religious right giving away the farm?

Time will tell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This tactic will either prove to be a brilliant way to keep the Left from making the health care bill &#8220;universal&#8221;, or it will backfire completely; a way of drowning the baby while saving the bathwater.</p>
<p>The Left will either keep abortion for poor women funded by limiting the government run health program, or they will shrug their shoulders and laugh off one of their pretend values to grasp the power offered. Then they will use that power.  And such provisions can always be cut out of the law at a later date.</p>
<p>It was pointed out in comments recently that the hard Left has no real agenda other than taking power into their own hands.  The question here is how firm are they in true support of free/low cost abortions?  The Obama administration has already shown that it is willing to shrug off interest groups long dear to liberal hearts.</p>
<p>By using the health bill to force an abortion concession are the religious right giving away the farm?</p>
<p>Time will tell.</p>
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		<title>By: mikidiki</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikidiki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Conservative&#039; Catholics pay no attention to left-wing priests or bishops, or even a liberal Pope, because they know that they, themselves, are the true believers and that the others are simply CINOs (Catholics in Name Only) who favor abortions, big government and amnesty for illegal aliens (many of whom are Latino CINOs themselves).  Fear not, inevitably the day of reckoning will come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Conservative&#8217; Catholics pay no attention to left-wing priests or bishops, or even a liberal Pope, because they know that they, themselves, are the true believers and that the others are simply CINOs (Catholics in Name Only) who favor abortions, big government and amnesty for illegal aliens (many of whom are Latino CINOs themselves).  Fear not, inevitably the day of reckoning will come.</p>
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		<title>By: Janet</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/11/12/yes-virginia-there-is-a-religious-left/#comment-25472</link>
		<dc:creator>Janet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The leftist leanings of the Catholic Church in the U.S. which seem to have arisen in the last half of the 20th century are completely to blame for the &quot;scandal&quot; we are slowly emerging from.  In order to be politically correct the Church ordained men who had agendas, not vocations, and consequently great harm was inflicted on many young lives.  And now it seems, again to be politically correct, many Church leaders assert that we need to overlook the fact that ten to fifteen million people came across our borders illegally, but should be treated in every respect as citizens.  If successful, this path will have many more far reaching negative consequences than the earlier mistake.

It is true, however, that just as our Country, its government and its inhabitants, is idealogically split, so too are the hierarchy and members of the Catholic Church. It was mystifying to me that my Pastor, retired now, who I felt was a candidate for Sainthood, was sympathetic to the Democrat platform right down the line, &#039;til it came to abortion. He was so utterly against the Iraq war and George Bush&#039;s policies, but with subtlety.  I recall writing him a letter, before we actually sent troups to Iraq, when, in our Weekly Church Bulletin, he suggested we go to a website originating at the University of Notre Dame for alternative solutions to war.  I was incensed and my letter read as much, defending every word George Bush spoke.  At that time, had the President suggested we invade the entire middle East, I would have enlisted (although pushing 70, I probably would have been turned down).  I received a beautiful letter in return letting me know how difficult it was to walk a line to please all.
I knew that he was a good, kind and gentle man, and a sincere man with no ulterior motives behind his beliefs and until he left we disagreed on many issues, but I left him alone.  I still think he&#039;s a candidate for Sainthood.

And so it is now, a difference in idealogies.  We conservatives see the folly in government intervention in every area of our lives.  The other side doesn&#039;t get it.  And I think it&#039;s only in retrospect when minds will be changed.  Tooo late.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The leftist leanings of the Catholic Church in the U.S. which seem to have arisen in the last half of the 20th century are completely to blame for the &#8220;scandal&#8221; we are slowly emerging from.  In order to be politically correct the Church ordained men who had agendas, not vocations, and consequently great harm was inflicted on many young lives.  And now it seems, again to be politically correct, many Church leaders assert that we need to overlook the fact that ten to fifteen million people came across our borders illegally, but should be treated in every respect as citizens.  If successful, this path will have many more far reaching negative consequences than the earlier mistake.</p>
<p>It is true, however, that just as our Country, its government and its inhabitants, is idealogically split, so too are the hierarchy and members of the Catholic Church. It was mystifying to me that my Pastor, retired now, who I felt was a candidate for Sainthood, was sympathetic to the Democrat platform right down the line, &#8217;til it came to abortion. He was so utterly against the Iraq war and George Bush&#8217;s policies, but with subtlety.  I recall writing him a letter, before we actually sent troups to Iraq, when, in our Weekly Church Bulletin, he suggested we go to a website originating at the University of Notre Dame for alternative solutions to war.  I was incensed and my letter read as much, defending every word George Bush spoke.  At that time, had the President suggested we invade the entire middle East, I would have enlisted (although pushing 70, I probably would have been turned down).  I received a beautiful letter in return letting me know how difficult it was to walk a line to please all.<br />
I knew that he was a good, kind and gentle man, and a sincere man with no ulterior motives behind his beliefs and until he left we disagreed on many issues, but I left him alone.  I still think he&#8217;s a candidate for Sainthood.</p>
<p>And so it is now, a difference in idealogies.  We conservatives see the folly in government intervention in every area of our lives.  The other side doesn&#8217;t get it.  And I think it&#8217;s only in retrospect when minds will be changed.  Tooo late.</p>
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		<title>By: jby</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/11/12/yes-virginia-there-is-a-religious-left/#comment-25471</link>
		<dc:creator>jby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have been aware of the religious left for a while. my partner&#039;s church, in athens GA, was huge on the &quot;social justice&quot; BS. they essentially don&#039;t care about how the poor and indigent are helped so long as they are helped. if that means taking forcible/coercive govt intervention/etc. from those who have then so be it. i honestly do not understand how my partner and others can buy this line of reasoning and still call themselves christian. they have rationalized that they are somehow doing what  god/jesus would be doing if they were here on earth. and the last time i checked i dont remember seeing a reference to a &quot;robin hood&quot; commandment in the bible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have been aware of the religious left for a while. my partner&#8217;s church, in athens GA, was huge on the &#8220;social justice&#8221; BS. they essentially don&#8217;t care about how the poor and indigent are helped so long as they are helped. if that means taking forcible/coercive govt intervention/etc. from those who have then so be it. i honestly do not understand how my partner and others can buy this line of reasoning and still call themselves christian. they have rationalized that they are somehow doing what  god/jesus would be doing if they were here on earth. and the last time i checked i dont remember seeing a reference to a &#8220;robin hood&#8221; commandment in the bible.</p>
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