We agree, and about Gore too. What a strange world that Madoff runs a scam and goes to prison, Gore runs a scam and gets a Nobel Prize.

Samuel

What I meant was that Global Warming was in no way responsible for the polar bear population shrinking down to the 5,000 that was reported… Indeed warming makes the polar Bear population grow, not shrink…

The figures I’ve read say that that their number increased 500% from 5,000 to 25,000

Other reports that I’ve read say that they’ve grown at least 2 to 4 times as many as there were, to as much as 10 times as many…

During the little ice age, I think it’s reasonable to assume that the herd shrank, and that, when combined with hunting, that was what made the population get so small… When it reached its low of 5,000, I assume that it was low enough to put some restrictions on hunting, and that, when added to the warming that continued for so long, is why the population has grown so rapidly in recent years…

But once again, my main point here is that Gore is lying as usual, when he says global warming is killing off the polar bears…

It just isn’t true…… Gore is a LIAR !

Why do you say; “The only REAL problem polar bears had was hunters, but their population has been growing steadily for the last 40 years, and they’re making a strong comeback right now.”?

They haven’t even been able to do a complete census, until recent years, I doubt hunters were a real problem 40 years ago, since no one knew how many there were, and the population is large now. The real problem is people finding problems that don’t exist to get the public concerned as to be able to raise money on that concern.

And really, does the world need 40 thousand polar bears, or is 30 thousand enough, who knows? They have to adjust to the available habitat like everything else.

Samuel

The only REAL problem polar bears had was hunters, but their population has been growing steadily for the last 40 years, and they’re making a strong comeback right now.

As for sea level, they’re been rising at a rate of 7 inches per century for the last 150 years. When they tell people that they could rise by 1 meter, they’re just trying to whip up a panic… And they’ve been rather effective at that…

The bottom line is that there’s nothing to be afraid of. The earth has been around for something like 4.5 billion years, and has survived REAL climate changes many times. In the last thousand years, the earth has reached temperatures of roughly 4° above and 4° below the mean average. Previously, it reached temperatures of roughly 8° above and 7° below the mean average. The warming period ended in 1998, and we’ve been cooling steadily cooling since then. At the warmest point in this latest climate crisis, we never got higher than 1° the mean…

Considering what mother nature has had to deal with over the last 4.5 billion years, I think she’ll survive our SUV’s just fine… SO let’s get back to working on the REAL problem… Pollution !

This entire AGW movement is a hoax.

I don’t know if you saw this article a few weeks ago, sorry I don’t have the link, but you shouldn’t have trouble finding it if you like. Here is part of it that I’ve cut and pasted from another email.

“Scientists aren’t sure when the polar bear diverged from its closest cousin, the brown bear. But Dick Harington, a paleontologist at the Canadian Museum of Nature, says an ancient polar bear jaw bone found in Norway 19 months ago suggests they were already a distinct species 110,000 to 130,000 years ago.

This means polar bears would have survived during a period when temperatures were much warmer than today, says Dr. Harington, who recently published a paper on the evolution of northern marine mammals in the journal Ecological Applications.

But he notes that modern polar bears have to cope with hunters and pollution as well as rising temperatures and melting ice. ”

What I found funny was that they had to tack on that last paragraph to be sure that sympathy for polar bears wasn’t impugned.

The listing of polar bears because of fear of global warming is completely bogus regardless if ice caps melt or not. A species will adapt to the available habitat, and saving them from hunters (for example) only massages human’s feelings. Biological reality is that the polar bear saved from hunting today, making us feel better, will die of starvation or other habitat factors tomorrow, but out of sight out of mind.

The Fish and Wildlife Service does not recognize habitat change as a population adjustment, and they continue to buy off on global warming as can be seen in their recent EA for bald and golden eagles:

Page 100 “Global climate change could raise sea level, perhaps by as much as one meter by the end of this century by expanding ocean water, melting mountain glacier, and causing ice sheets to melt or slide into the oceans. Such a rise would inundate coastal lowlands and impact bald eagles nest locations associated with them.”

Page 102 “Because the sea-level rise is expected to take place gradually, over a span of years, bald eagles will have time to relocate. However, because impacts will be occurring to human property in the same areas, the Service may see an increase in the requests and need for permits related to human and eagle safety in these areas…Re-evaluation and potential adjustments of the permit thresholds and permit conditions will minimize the cumulative effects of the permit and climate change in coastal areas.”

More evidence that science takes the back seat to politics and emotions.

Samuel