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		<title>By: Nothing to See Here, Folks. The Lamestream Media on Climategate &#171; NewsReal Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/10/20/a-slow-ride-to-socialism/#comment-18969</link>
		<dc:creator>Nothing to See Here, Folks. The Lamestream Media on Climategate &#171; NewsReal Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Steynian 392 &#171; Free Canuckistan!</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/10/20/a-slow-ride-to-socialism/#comment-18968</link>
		<dc:creator>Steynian 392 &#171; Free Canuckistan!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 23:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/10/20/a-slow-ride-to-socialism/#comment-18967</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lance:

there is a huge difference between your referenced material and what the WH is doing. Your reference is about those that wish and do express their opinions and ideas freely in the public eye via programs that they work and gain money from as part of their job are in a free market driven by those that wish to partake in it. as a result of his statement he lost market share and also advertising.

&quot;TERENCE SMITH: Maherâ€™s comments ignited a firestorm. And some local stations dropped or suspended his show. At the White House, Press Secretary Ari Fleischer issued a cautionary note.&quot;

So the comment: &quot;ARI FLEISCHER: There are reminders to all Americans that they need to watch what they say, watch what they do. This is not a time for remarks like that. There never is.&quot;  is nothing more than a reminder to those that the public will choose what they think and who they will support for their entertainment/news.

This is completely different than what the WH is actually doing today. They are intentionally targeting an entire news organization and saying they are the enemies. They are targeting any conservative or even mildly conservative outlet (radio, paper, blogg, organization, activist group, etc..) as the enemy. They have sent out trolls to intentionally place supportive comments for O&#039;s plans on websites, they have been blogging (from the WH blogg) in absolute support for the plans, they openly deny that people and organizations are actually reporting with facts and news, yet  they respond with accusations of racism, and outright lies.


As a result there is a resurgence of patronage to the more conservative media in all its forms due to these actions. Your example is nothing more than advice to those during a time when tensions were high and people reacted faster due to one&#039;s comments. What is happening now is a direct attack against free speech. This is the same Pattern that many other leftist governments have taken. Research the ley de medios/Radiofusion/Grupo ClarÃ­n if you don&#039;t believe me. *careful, I&#039;m fairly well versed in it*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lance:</p>
<p>there is a huge difference between your referenced material and what the WH is doing. Your reference is about those that wish and do express their opinions and ideas freely in the public eye via programs that they work and gain money from as part of their job are in a free market driven by those that wish to partake in it. as a result of his statement he lost market share and also advertising.</p>
<p>&#8220;TERENCE SMITH: Maherâ€™s comments ignited a firestorm. And some local stations dropped or suspended his show. At the White House, Press Secretary Ari Fleischer issued a cautionary note.&#8221;</p>
<p>So the comment: &#8220;ARI FLEISCHER: There are reminders to all Americans that they need to watch what they say, watch what they do. This is not a time for remarks like that. There never is.&#8221;  is nothing more than a reminder to those that the public will choose what they think and who they will support for their entertainment/news.</p>
<p>This is completely different than what the WH is actually doing today. They are intentionally targeting an entire news organization and saying they are the enemies. They are targeting any conservative or even mildly conservative outlet (radio, paper, blogg, organization, activist group, etc..) as the enemy. They have sent out trolls to intentionally place supportive comments for O&#8217;s plans on websites, they have been blogging (from the WH blogg) in absolute support for the plans, they openly deny that people and organizations are actually reporting with facts and news, yet  they respond with accusations of racism, and outright lies.</p>
<p>As a result there is a resurgence of patronage to the more conservative media in all its forms due to these actions. Your example is nothing more than advice to those during a time when tensions were high and people reacted faster due to one&#8217;s comments. What is happening now is a direct attack against free speech. This is the same Pattern that many other leftist governments have taken. Research the ley de medios/Radiofusion/Grupo ClarÃ­n if you don&#8217;t believe me. *careful, I&#8217;m fairly well versed in it*</p>
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		<title>By: LanceThruster</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/10/20/a-slow-ride-to-socialism/#comment-18966</link>
		<dc:creator>LanceThruster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apologize for your own shortcomings, Judy. I&#039;ll deal with trying to defend my own positions (or not).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apologize for your own shortcomings, Judy. I&#8217;ll deal with trying to defend my own positions (or not).</p>
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		<title>By: LanceThruster</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/10/20/a-slow-ride-to-socialism/#comment-18965</link>
		<dc:creator>LanceThruster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re welcome to be as stupid as you are able, Tom. And Bill Maher is clearly *not* a news org but he was singled out by Ari&#039;s &quot;caution&quot; as if Maher does not have a right to express his views as he sees fit.

Can a president/administration choose how and when to do interviews and press conferences? Then he can choose who to do them with. He explained his rationale and I find his concerns valid. Fox can try harder for balance or continue to parade their ideologues across the screen to spout their contrarianism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re welcome to be as stupid as you are able, Tom. And Bill Maher is clearly *not* a news org but he was singled out by Ari&#8217;s &#8220;caution&#8221; as if Maher does not have a right to express his views as he sees fit.</p>
<p>Can a president/administration choose how and when to do interviews and press conferences? Then he can choose who to do them with. He explained his rationale and I find his concerns valid. Fox can try harder for balance or continue to parade their ideologues across the screen to spout their contrarianism.</p>
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		<title>By: LanceThruster</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/10/20/a-slow-ride-to-socialism/#comment-18964</link>
		<dc:creator>LanceThruster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KN - Your argument is equivalent to, &quot;Let&#039;s not dwell on the past when it was our guy doing it and we remained silent. Let&#039;s pretend this originated with your guy.&quot;

Rememeber it was during the Bush misadministration that Helen Thomas got moved to the back of the bus when she dared to ask probing questions, and shill questioners like former gay escort Jeff Gannon/James Guckert were treated like legitimate  news reporters as they lobbed slobber-covered soft balls. Bush Townhall meetings were screened to allow supporters only though touted as open to the public. Those looking to gain access were harassed by security, threatened with arrest or actually detained, and/or escorted off the premises (and these were public venues and the people were not even carrying firearms). People were also ejected or otherwise mistreated for t-shirts or buttons or signs with political messages on them. BushCo gave Fox eclusives with their people knowing they would receive a &quot;friendly&quot; reception. BushCo granted access to those who played ball and froze out those who wouldn&#039;t. And on and on... Bush team members were on record saying that they could count on Fox to promote their agenda.

The Obama adminsistration is just choosing not to validate an adversarial propaganda outlet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KN &#8211; Your argument is equivalent to, &#8220;Let&#8217;s not dwell on the past when it was our guy doing it and we remained silent. Let&#8217;s pretend this originated with your guy.&#8221;</p>
<p>Rememeber it was during the Bush misadministration that Helen Thomas got moved to the back of the bus when she dared to ask probing questions, and shill questioners like former gay escort Jeff Gannon/James Guckert were treated like legitimate  news reporters as they lobbed slobber-covered soft balls. Bush Townhall meetings were screened to allow supporters only though touted as open to the public. Those looking to gain access were harassed by security, threatened with arrest or actually detained, and/or escorted off the premises (and these were public venues and the people were not even carrying firearms). People were also ejected or otherwise mistreated for t-shirts or buttons or signs with political messages on them. BushCo gave Fox eclusives with their people knowing they would receive a &#8220;friendly&#8221; reception. BushCo granted access to those who played ball and froze out those who wouldn&#8217;t. And on and on&#8230; Bush team members were on record saying that they could count on Fox to promote their agenda.</p>
<p>The Obama adminsistration is just choosing not to validate an adversarial propaganda outlet.</p>
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		<title>By: Judy</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/10/20/a-slow-ride-to-socialism/#comment-18963</link>
		<dc:creator>Judy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karen N.,
You have to excuse Lance T., he trolls the site and drops bombs intended to start an argument or anwers to his innane, irrelevant comments.
Obama is still in full swing compaigning mode. Without the Bush administration to blame, he has chosen other targets as diversions from his lack of leadership, decision making, and veracity. The guy just doesn&#039;t get it. This ain&#039;t Chi-town and he ain&#039;t dealing with the political mobsters that he is familiar with. The American public response to his pathological lies and inactivity is very apparent, and he is not accustomed to being rebuffed,questioned, and met with resistance. He is undoubtedly shocked that the public is not falling to their knees in support and gratification of his presidency. We are left with the picture of an emperor with no clothes on. All that is Obama and his staff is out there for all to see and hear. The Red House is full steam ahead to curb or eliminate our freedoms and institute a comunist government of elitists. Axelrod and Emmanuel are the front men for the Obama circus and it&#039;s 3 ring&#039;s of socialists, communists, and Maoists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karen N.,<br />
You have to excuse Lance T., he trolls the site and drops bombs intended to start an argument or anwers to his innane, irrelevant comments.<br />
Obama is still in full swing compaigning mode. Without the Bush administration to blame, he has chosen other targets as diversions from his lack of leadership, decision making, and veracity. The guy just doesn&#8217;t get it. This ain&#8217;t Chi-town and he ain&#8217;t dealing with the political mobsters that he is familiar with. The American public response to his pathological lies and inactivity is very apparent, and he is not accustomed to being rebuffed,questioned, and met with resistance. He is undoubtedly shocked that the public is not falling to their knees in support and gratification of his presidency. We are left with the picture of an emperor with no clothes on. All that is Obama and his staff is out there for all to see and hear. The Red House is full steam ahead to curb or eliminate our freedoms and institute a comunist government of elitists. Axelrod and Emmanuel are the front men for the Obama circus and it&#8217;s 3 ring&#8217;s of socialists, communists, and Maoists.</p>
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		<title>By: MaryAnn</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/10/20/a-slow-ride-to-socialism/#comment-18962</link>
		<dc:creator>MaryAnn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole of Mr. Obama&#039;s policies, foreign and domestic, reminds me of the saying &quot;those who don&#039;t know history are doomed to repeat it&quot;. The reaction of most of the country, although many seem to be waking up, reminds me of another, &quot;you don&#039;t know what you&#039;ve got till it&#039;s gone&quot;. We are, indeed, in dangerous times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole of Mr. Obama&#8217;s policies, foreign and domestic, reminds me of the saying &#8220;those who don&#8217;t know history are doomed to repeat it&#8221;. The reaction of most of the country, although many seem to be waking up, reminds me of another, &#8220;you don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;ve got till it&#8217;s gone&#8221;. We are, indeed, in dangerous times.</p>
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		<title>By: jac mills</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/10/20/a-slow-ride-to-socialism/#comment-18961</link>
		<dc:creator>jac mills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karen:

An excellent analysis of the WH/Fox situation.  I think Emanuel is the architect, Axelrod his project manager.  It has their stamp, postmark Chicago.  But we cannot blame entirely those cunning culprits.  The remainder of the American media has a load to carry.  Shame on them.  The media&#039;s responsibility should be, as it once was in this country, to challenge -- with facts.  The WH has a right to challenge the media -- with facts.  Today we witness a one-sided argument:  Fox has the facts, the WH has the power.  I have seen this fungus spread in other countries, experienced its resultant chaos and devastation.  The &quot;slow&quot; ride to Socialism is picking up steam, and soon we&#039;ll be heading downhill without brakes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karen:</p>
<p>An excellent analysis of the WH/Fox situation.  I think Emanuel is the architect, Axelrod his project manager.  It has their stamp, postmark Chicago.  But we cannot blame entirely those cunning culprits.  The remainder of the American media has a load to carry.  Shame on them.  The media&#8217;s responsibility should be, as it once was in this country, to challenge &#8212; with facts.  The WH has a right to challenge the media &#8212; with facts.  Today we witness a one-sided argument:  Fox has the facts, the WH has the power.  I have seen this fungus spread in other countries, experienced its resultant chaos and devastation.  The &#8220;slow&#8221; ride to Socialism is picking up steam, and soon we&#8217;ll be heading downhill without brakes.</p>
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		<title>By: Alheimstead</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/10/20/a-slow-ride-to-socialism/#comment-18960</link>
		<dc:creator>Alheimstead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 10:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Whitehouse has waged war both on Fox and to middle class America.  At the same time Obama and his administration act like cowards towards our enemies.  So scary.  Instead of standing up for America, Obama is tearing us down.  We have to get this regime out before it&#039;s too late.  Traitors in the Whitehouse!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Whitehouse has waged war both on Fox and to middle class America.  At the same time Obama and his administration act like cowards towards our enemies.  So scary.  Instead of standing up for America, Obama is tearing us down.  We have to get this regime out before it&#8217;s too late.  Traitors in the Whitehouse!</p>
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		<title>By: VNVet</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/10/20/a-slow-ride-to-socialism/#comment-18951</link>
		<dc:creator>VNVet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 05:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have to excuse Lance, he&#039;s a very, very &#039;Sick Puppy&#039;!  Actually there&#039;s no excuse for him, I&#039;m just joking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have to excuse Lance, he&#8217;s a very, very &#8216;Sick Puppy&#8217;!  Actually there&#8217;s no excuse for him, I&#8217;m just joking.</p>
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		<title>By: VNVet</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/10/20/a-slow-ride-to-socialism/#comment-18950</link>
		<dc:creator>VNVet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 05:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karen,

Your very good point regarding what this white house is trying to do to FOX, that is to say literally waging war against a media entity, as compared to the comment Ari Fleischer made regarding Maher&#039;s idiocy is, to use another vernacular, light-years away from each other.  A presidential administration has a duty to stand up for it&#039;s policies against ridicule and misrepresentation (something by the way that the Bush administration was extemely remiss in doing, much to the dismay and frustration of republicans/conservatives), but has no business using the substantial power of government to attempt to destroy those entities, especially the press.  The latter falls under the category of Stalinism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karen,</p>
<p>Your very good point regarding what this white house is trying to do to FOX, that is to say literally waging war against a media entity, as compared to the comment Ari Fleischer made regarding Maher&#8217;s idiocy is, to use another vernacular, light-years away from each other.  A presidential administration has a duty to stand up for it&#8217;s policies against ridicule and misrepresentation (something by the way that the Bush administration was extemely remiss in doing, much to the dismay and frustration of republicans/conservatives), but has no business using the substantial power of government to attempt to destroy those entities, especially the press.  The latter falls under the category of Stalinism.</p>
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