Comments on: The Final Word on the Crackpot Conspiracist Mindset http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/10/17/the-final-word-on-the-crackpot-conspiracist-mindset/ Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:34:39 +0000 hourly 1 By: Ron Paul Emerging as Ross Perot’s Doppelganger | NewsReal Blog http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/10/17/the-final-word-on-the-crackpot-conspiracist-mindset/#comment-55998 Ron Paul Emerging as Ross Perot’s Doppelganger | NewsReal Blog Sun, 21 Feb 2010 21:02:38 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=11948#comment-55998 [...] In 2002, Paul gave a speech on the floor of the House seeking to Abolish the Federal Reserve. It is unclear what “problem” this proposed “solution” was designed to fix. One can support the Federal Reserve’s continued existence and still disagree with many of its actions and policies. Conversely, one can even support its abolition but not support Paul’s alternative, which is to have our currency fixed to the price of gold and/or a “basket of commodities”. Intertwined in his House speech was also a small dose of conspiracy thinking. [...] [...] In 2002, Paul gave a speech on the floor of the House seeking to Abolish the Federal Reserve. It is unclear what “problem” this proposed “solution” was designed to fix. One can support the Federal Reserve’s continued existence and still disagree with many of its actions and policies. Conversely, one can even support its abolition but not support Paul’s alternative, which is to have our currency fixed to the price of gold and/or a “basket of commodities”. Intertwined in his House speech was also a small dose of conspiracy thinking. [...]

]]> By: Clergyman P-Ray http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/10/17/the-final-word-on-the-crackpot-conspiracist-mindset/#comment-40079 Clergyman P-Ray Sun, 10 Jan 2010 21:54:37 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=11948#comment-40079 Ron Paul is of the few well-known libertarians and certainly one of a very, tinsy small handful of GOP-loyal "Republicans" this Lefty respects. Perhaps conservatives, neocons, whatever you folks call yourselves these days should realize the Ron Paul "Revolution" has the wind of millions of people at its sails due to all that common sense they spout before ya start railing 'bout how much of a crackpot conspiracy theorist he is! Is there a Big Tent conservative movement? One thinks not. Ron Paul is of the few well-known libertarians and certainly one of a very, tinsy small handful of GOP-loyal "Republicans" this Lefty respects. Perhaps conservatives, neocons, whatever you folks call yourselves these days should realize the Ron Paul "Revolution" has the wind of millions of people at its sails due to all that common sense they spout before ya start railing 'bout how much of a crackpot conspiracy theorist he is!

Is there a Big Tent conservative movement? One thinks not.

]]> By: George Noory: He Believes in Bigfoot and Area 51…Islamic Terror, Not So Sure. | NewsReal Blog http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/10/17/the-final-word-on-the-crackpot-conspiracist-mindset/#comment-39504 George Noory: He Believes in Bigfoot and Area 51…Islamic Terror, Not So Sure. | NewsReal Blog Fri, 08 Jan 2010 14:37:12 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=11948#comment-39504 [...] George Noory, Mr. Bell’s successor, has replaced the edgy science element with left-leaning, anti-establishment alarmists. Following 9-11, Art Bell instantly silenced conspiracists trying to peddle their wares. Mr. Noory welcomes 9-11 “Truthers,” including the noxious and obnoxious Alex Jones. [...] [...] George Noory, Mr. Bell’s successor, has replaced the edgy science element with left-leaning, anti-establishment alarmists. Following 9-11, Art Bell instantly silenced conspiracists trying to peddle their wares. Mr. Noory welcomes 9-11 “Truthers,” including the noxious and obnoxious Alex Jones. [...]

]]> By: Tom March http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/10/17/the-final-word-on-the-crackpot-conspiracist-mindset/#comment-38609 Tom March Mon, 04 Jan 2010 14:16:46 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=11948#comment-38609 "The truth is a very rare commodity, and ironically, it is becoming much harder to discern, even though we have such prodigious amounts of information at our fingertips." I would venture to say that it is much harder to discern BECAUSE we have such prodigious amounts of information at our fingertips. “The truth is a very rare commodity, and ironically, it is becoming much harder to discern, even though we have such prodigious amounts of information at our fingertips.”

I would venture to say that it is much harder to discern BECAUSE we have such prodigious amounts of information at our fingertips.

]]> By: The Politics of Blind Faith: Ron Paul Revolution | NewsReal Blog http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/10/17/the-final-word-on-the-crackpot-conspiracist-mindset/#comment-38410 The Politics of Blind Faith: Ron Paul Revolution | NewsReal Blog Sun, 03 Jan 2010 21:36:29 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=11948#comment-38410 [...] is a perfect time for everyone to reread Mr. Swindle’s “The Final Word on the Crackpot Conspiracist Mindset.” VN:F [1.7.9_1023]please wait...Rating: 3.0/5 (2 votes cast)The Politics of Blind Faith: Ron Paul [...] [...] is a perfect time for everyone to reread Mr. Swindle’s “The Final Word on the Crackpot Conspiracist Mindset.” VN:F [1.7.9_1023]please wait…Rating: 3.0/5 (2 votes cast)The Politics of Blind Faith: Ron Paul [...]

]]> By: Karen http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/10/17/the-final-word-on-the-crackpot-conspiracist-mindset/#comment-32306 Karen Mon, 07 Dec 2009 15:22:42 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=11948#comment-32306 RE: the Birther matter: This is a fairly complex LEGAL matter. It's essentially irrelevant whether Obama is a US Citizen. He is, and would be, even if born in Kenya. That is not the question. The question is whether he is a NATURAL Born Citizen of the US per Article II of the US Constitution. Based on all the SCOTUS case law we have that deals with NBC, the answer is NO. There are many different ways one can attain US Citizenship: via statute, 14th Amendment, "naturally"=no other citizenship is possible, ie., born to 2 US Citizen parents on US soil/territory. If an illegal alien manages to cross the US border and deliver her child on US soil, 3 minutes after illegally entering the US, then the child IS a US Citizen but would NOT be a NBC of the US and thus eligible to be the POTUS and Commander-in-Chief of the US Armed Forces. I don't know what GAME you (and many others) are playing but it's OBVIOUS that Obama is SERIOUS Article II eligibility issues. The NBC requirement in Article II is a NATIONAL SECURITY PROTECTION. Obama is a "citizen of the world" in a REAL way -- literally -- and he's proving it as POTUS. Obama was born a DUAL-citizen -- a citizen of the US and a FOREIGN nation. THAT is the issue and it's one whopper of a serious one. And quite frankly, only an idiot can't see how serious this is. Amazingly, a FEW SCIENTISTS have managed to successfully conspire to convince the WORLD that global warming is caused by man . . .and that anyone who disagrees is a nut-case. Well, surprise, these global warming conspiracists REALLY DID pull if off -- even at a world-wide level. So, don't bull-s-- me and tell me that Obama couldn't pull-off this IN-eligiblity to be POTUS. OF COURSE HE COULD -- with the assistance of the DNC and HI DoH. RE: the Birther matter: This is a fairly complex LEGAL matter. It’s essentially irrelevant whether Obama is a US Citizen. He is, and would be, even if born in Kenya. That is not the question. The question is whether he is a NATURAL Born Citizen of the US per Article II of the US Constitution. Based on all the SCOTUS case law we have that deals with NBC, the answer is NO. There are many different ways one can attain US Citizenship: via statute, 14th Amendment, “naturally”=no other citizenship is possible, ie., born to 2 US Citizen parents on US soil/territory. If an illegal alien manages to cross the US border and deliver her child on US soil, 3 minutes after illegally entering the US, then the child IS a US Citizen but would NOT be a NBC of the US and thus eligible to be the POTUS and Commander-in-Chief of the US Armed Forces. I don’t know what GAME you (and many others) are playing but it’s OBVIOUS that Obama is SERIOUS Article II eligibility issues. The NBC requirement in Article II is a NATIONAL SECURITY PROTECTION. Obama is a “citizen of the world” in a REAL way — literally — and he’s proving it as POTUS. Obama was born a DUAL-citizen — a citizen of the US and a FOREIGN nation. THAT is the issue and it’s one whopper of a serious one. And quite frankly, only an idiot can’t see how serious this is. Amazingly, a FEW SCIENTISTS have managed to successfully conspire to convince the WORLD that global warming is caused by man . . .and that anyone who disagrees is a nut-case. Well, surprise, these global warming conspiracists REALLY DID pull if off — even at a world-wide level. So, don’t bull-s– me and tell me that Obama couldn’t pull-off this IN-eligiblity to be POTUS. OF COURSE HE COULD — with the assistance of the DNC and HI DoH.

]]> By: Is Sarah Palin a Birther? No, But the Left Wishes She Was « NewsReal Blog http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/10/17/the-final-word-on-the-crackpot-conspiracist-mindset/#comment-18451 Is Sarah Palin a Birther? No, But the Left Wishes She Was « NewsReal Blog Sat, 05 Dec 2009 21:28:31 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=11948#comment-18451 [...] And that is why serious conservatives concerned about the Left’s agenda need to have a no-tolerance attitude toward birtherism. If allowed to thrive it will only continue to undermine the Conservative movement and allow the Left more power. It can only be announced for what it is: poisonous crackpot conspiracism. [...] [...] And that is why serious conservatives concerned about the Left’s agenda need to have a no-tolerance attitude toward birtherism. If allowed to thrive it will only continue to undermine the Conservative movement and allow the Left more power. It can only be announced for what it is: poisonous crackpot conspiracism. [...]

]]> By: steve http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/10/17/the-final-word-on-the-crackpot-conspiracist-mindset/#comment-18436 steve Thu, 03 Dec 2009 12:42:06 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=11948#comment-18436 i have decided you are aware of the "great work of ages" and are helping the elite. the way you structured this rant gives it away. you say we should supress and ridicule people out of the political process for having controversial views. you attack the "psychology" instead of the evidence. you say we shouldnt change our minds based on video EVIDENCE, but we should take elite and thier experts'official words as gospel PEOPLE. do the research yourself. you will see the obvious if you dig a little. make up your own mind. i have decided you are aware of the “great work of ages” and are helping the elite. the way you structured this rant gives it away. you say we should supress and ridicule people out of the political process for having controversial views. you attack the “psychology” instead of the evidence. you say we shouldnt change our minds based on video EVIDENCE, but we should take elite and thier experts’official words as gospel PEOPLE. do the research yourself. you will see the obvious if you dig a little. make up your own mind.

]]> By: Comments of the Day: Getting Real About Third Parties in the Merry Old Land of Oz « NewsReal Blog http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/10/17/the-final-word-on-the-crackpot-conspiracist-mindset/#comment-18450 Comments of the Day: Getting Real About Third Parties in the Merry Old Land of Oz « NewsReal Blog Tue, 01 Dec 2009 00:24:00 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=11948#comment-18450 [...] course it’s very difficult for me to resist using the C-word when the Good Doctor comes up in discussion. It’s just too much fun watching his [...] [...] course it’s very difficult for me to resist using the C-word when the Good Doctor comes up in discussion. It’s just too much fun watching his [...]

]]> By: Hans http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/10/17/the-final-word-on-the-crackpot-conspiracist-mindset/#comment-18447 Hans Tue, 24 Nov 2009 04:19:15 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=11948#comment-18447 Also, John Nash's Game Theory contends that everyone acts (and should act) with self-interest whether they be politicians or trained experts or laity or clergy, and if everyone does this everyone achieves optimization. Also, John Nash’s Game Theory contends that everyone acts (and should act) with self-interest whether they be politicians or trained experts or laity or clergy, and if everyone does this everyone achieves optimization.

]]> By: Trebuchet http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/10/17/the-final-word-on-the-crackpot-conspiracist-mindset/#comment-18442 Trebuchet Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:28:54 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=11948#comment-18442 I suppose you could say that whether something appears to be a conspiracy or not depends upon which end of the spear you're holding. You have the "Done By's" who never see what they do as conspiracy but as something that must be done to advance their agenda, and the "Done To's" who of course see what has transpired as a conspiracy against them. I'm sure Cloward&Pivens did not see their strategy for collapsing the economic system of the US as a conspiracy but those who have suffered economical over the past 3 years are ready to hang em' as grand conspirators. Also,I have seen the Movie "Watchmen" and as I remember everyone in the film thinks Roschach is demented but in the end it turns out he's the one that's right. I suppose you could say that whether something appears to be a conspiracy or not depends upon which end of the spear you’re holding. You have the “Done By’s” who never see what they do as conspiracy but as something that must be done to advance their agenda, and the “Done To’s” who of course see what has transpired as a conspiracy against them. I’m sure Cloward&Pivens did not see their strategy for collapsing the economic system of the US as a conspiracy but those who have suffered economical over the past 3 years are ready to hang em’ as grand conspirators. Also,I have seen the Movie “Watchmen” and as I remember everyone in the film thinks Roschach is demented but in the end it turns out he’s the one that’s right.

]]> By: Pat Curley http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/10/17/the-final-word-on-the-crackpot-conspiracist-mindset/#comment-18446 Pat Curley Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:12:02 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=11948#comment-18446 Great job, I have linked even though the post is a bit old. If you are still looking for a #10: 10. Conspiracist Crackpots all believe that initial (often jumbled and mistaken) media accounts were correct, and that later, when full details are released, the media aligns itself with the official account. The recent Fort Hood shootings are a classic example. Many early accounts stated that there were two or more killers involved in the rampage, but now we know it was the work of only one man. Conspiracy Crackpots still believe there were multiple shooters, and many of them claim Major Hasan is actually a patsy. Great job, I have linked even though the post is a bit old. If you are still looking for a #10:

10. Conspiracist Crackpots all believe that initial (often jumbled and mistaken) media accounts were correct, and that later, when full details are released, the media aligns itself with the official account. The recent Fort Hood shootings are a classic example. Many early accounts stated that there were two or more killers involved in the rampage, but now we know it was the work of only one man. Conspiracy Crackpots still believe there were multiple shooters, and many of them claim Major Hasan is actually a patsy.

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