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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/10/10/from-the-pen-of-david-horowitz-october-10-2009/#comment-16370</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think you&#039;re an idiot, Swemson, even though you are ideology bound into a very narrow paradigm.

Goodbye?  You keep coming back.  I understand the word perfectly, but I keep talking because I know you will keep coming back.  I control you through your stubborn pride.

But I am serious.  You really are very much a cultural leftist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;re an idiot, Swemson, even though you are ideology bound into a very narrow paradigm.</p>
<p>Goodbye?  You keep coming back.  I understand the word perfectly, but I keep talking because I know you will keep coming back.  I control you through your stubborn pride.</p>
<p>But I am serious.  You really are very much a cultural leftist.</p>
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		<title>By: swemson</title>
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		<dc:creator>swemson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can anyone capable of operating a computer be such a blithering idiot ?

What part of the word &lt;b&gt;GOODBYE&lt;/b&gt; do you not understand?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can anyone capable of operating a computer be such a blithering idiot ?</p>
<p>What part of the word <b>GOODBYE</b> do you not understand?</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/10/10/from-the-pen-of-david-horowitz-october-10-2009/#comment-16368</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah, Castro, he can&#039;t possibly be a Marxist because he believes in capitalism too.  So does communist China.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah, Castro, he can&#8217;t possibly be a Marxist because he believes in capitalism too.  So does communist China.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Swemson.  Still acting like a leftist to the end.  Oh wait.

&quot;I can&#039;t be a leftist because I believe in free market economics.  Of course, I can still have a culturally Marxist worldview, but that&#039;s beside the point.  And of course, being a leftist, I can make broad sweeping suprematist generalizations about my opponents, but they&#039;d better not reciprocate in any way that makes me feel bad.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Swemson.  Still acting like a leftist to the end.  Oh wait.</p>
<p>&#8220;I can&#8217;t be a leftist because I believe in free market economics.  Of course, I can still have a culturally Marxist worldview, but that&#8217;s beside the point.  And of course, being a leftist, I can make broad sweeping suprematist generalizations about my opponents, but they&#8217;d better not reciprocate in any way that makes me feel bad.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: swemson</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/10/10/from-the-pen-of-david-horowitz-october-10-2009/#comment-16366</link>
		<dc:creator>swemson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You see everything in such a twisted manner that you&#039;re now beginning to bore me... Every single observation you make is 180 degrees opposite of the truth.. and it&#039;s obvious as to why... Religion has simply rotted your brain.. what a shame !

You say I act like a leftist, and yet I&#039;m probably further to the right than anyone you know... But to be fair, perhaps we define &quot;right&quot; differently.

My ideal society is one with a pure laissez faire free market capitalist system, where all individuals are free to pursue their own happiness as long as they don&#039;t violate the rights of others...

You&#039;ve got this absurd idea in your head that all leftists are atheists, and that all atheists must therefore be leftists... are you just stupid or what ?

You&#039;re obviously freaked out over the fact that I continue to stand my ground, and answer every challenge with straight rational answers, which you find so hard to accept that you&#039;ve become obsessed with me.. so much so that you&#039;re now scanning through my other posts to try to trap me... The problem is that everything I said in your post is 100% correct... It&#039;s you who has a twisted view of reality.

But you&#039;re not satisfied being just a religious whacko,

&lt;i&gt;Darwin had the honesty to admit he was an agnostic, the only true logical stance for anyone rejecting theism.&lt;/i&gt;

you&#039;re also an environmental whacko as well, since you apparently believe that CO2 has any meaningful effect on climate change... &lt;b&gt;IT&#039;S THE SUN STUPID&lt;/b&gt;.. and if you believe otherwise, you&#039;re a brain dead zombie...

The bottom line is that you prove how delusional you are every time you open your mouth, so this is goodbye.. I shan&#039;t waste any more of my time on you.. you&#039;re beyond hope...

T.S. Elliot once said that he was a Marxist, of the Groucho sort...

So now you can go tell your pals that I&#039;m a Marxist too.. !

&lt;b&gt;Go... and never darken my towels again !&lt;/b&gt; &lt;i&gt; Groucho Marx&lt;/i&gt;

T.S. Elliot once said that he was a Marxist, of the Groucho sort...

So now you can go tell your pals that I&#039;m a Marxist too.. !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You see everything in such a twisted manner that you&#8217;re now beginning to bore me&#8230; Every single observation you make is 180 degrees opposite of the truth.. and it&#8217;s obvious as to why&#8230; Religion has simply rotted your brain.. what a shame !</p>
<p>You say I act like a leftist, and yet I&#8217;m probably further to the right than anyone you know&#8230; But to be fair, perhaps we define &#8220;right&#8221; differently.</p>
<p>My ideal society is one with a pure laissez faire free market capitalist system, where all individuals are free to pursue their own happiness as long as they don&#8217;t violate the rights of others&#8230;</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve got this absurd idea in your head that all leftists are atheists, and that all atheists must therefore be leftists&#8230; are you just stupid or what ?</p>
<p>You&#8217;re obviously freaked out over the fact that I continue to stand my ground, and answer every challenge with straight rational answers, which you find so hard to accept that you&#8217;ve become obsessed with me.. so much so that you&#8217;re now scanning through my other posts to try to trap me&#8230; The problem is that everything I said in your post is 100% correct&#8230; It&#8217;s you who has a twisted view of reality.</p>
<p>But you&#8217;re not satisfied being just a religious whacko,</p>
<p><i>Darwin had the honesty to admit he was an agnostic, the only true logical stance for anyone rejecting theism.</i></p>
<p>you&#8217;re also an environmental whacko as well, since you apparently believe that CO2 has any meaningful effect on climate change&#8230; <b>IT&#8217;S THE SUN STUPID</b>.. and if you believe otherwise, you&#8217;re a brain dead zombie&#8230;</p>
<p>The bottom line is that you prove how delusional you are every time you open your mouth, so this is goodbye.. I shan&#8217;t waste any more of my time on you.. you&#8217;re beyond hope&#8230;</p>
<p>T.S. Elliot once said that he was a Marxist, of the Groucho sort&#8230;</p>
<p>So now you can go tell your pals that I&#8217;m a Marxist too.. !</p>
<p><b>Go&#8230; and never darken my towels again !</b> <i> Groucho Marx</i></p>
<p>T.S. Elliot once said that he was a Marxist, of the Groucho sort&#8230;</p>
<p>So now you can go tell your pals that I&#8217;m a Marxist too.. !</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/10/10/from-the-pen-of-david-horowitz-october-10-2009/#comment-16365</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why can you not avoid acting like a leftist when debating, Swemson?  You&#039;re the one being emotional and irrational.  It&#039;s a pattern with you.  Lets look at your statements in this thread:

&quot;Maybe BHO will be the straw that breaks the camelâ€™s backâ€¦  If we canâ€™t find a way to get rid of him real fast, heâ€™s going to tear everything down.. &quot;

&quot;Religion isnâ€™t about god Joe, itâ€™s about the clergy, and their desire to have control over mankind.. &amp; as such I donâ€™t see the church asa being all that different from Obama, Chavez, Stalin, Marx, and Genghis Kahnâ€¦&quot;

&quot;Darwin (the theory, not the man) is hostile to religion in that it shatters the entire â€œgod created man in his own imageâ€ mythâ€¦.&quot;

&quot;Extreme environmentalism has become the cool new hip communismâ€¦ Itâ€™s anti-man, and itâ€™s BULLS*~T !  They believe all sorts of nonsense, and they believe it with a religious fervorâ€¦  Theyâ€™re so whacked out that they think CO2 is causing the planet to get dangerously too warmâ€¦  If youâ€™re drinking all that Kool-Aid youâ€™re in for a rude awakening !&quot;

I wonder how many of these folks share your worldview, Swemson.  Virtually all, I would wager.  And every specific person you mentioned in these quotes who isn&#039;t overtly atheist is aligned with your general views, I wager.  Including Obama.  Excepting Darwin.  Darwin had the honesty to admit he was an agnostic, the only true logical stance for anyone rejecting theism.

But then again, he was a scientist living in an age before Marxism,  and before politic0-science came to be dominated by the institution of politico-atheism.  That&#039;s one real problem I have with these blankety-blank Marxists, Swemson.  They politicize EVERYTHING.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why can you not avoid acting like a leftist when debating, Swemson?  You&#8217;re the one being emotional and irrational.  It&#8217;s a pattern with you.  Lets look at your statements in this thread:</p>
<p>&#8220;Maybe BHO will be the straw that breaks the camelâ€™s backâ€¦  If we canâ€™t find a way to get rid of him real fast, heâ€™s going to tear everything down.. &#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Religion isnâ€™t about god Joe, itâ€™s about the clergy, and their desire to have control over mankind.. &amp; as such I donâ€™t see the church asa being all that different from Obama, Chavez, Stalin, Marx, and Genghis Kahnâ€¦&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Darwin (the theory, not the man) is hostile to religion in that it shatters the entire â€œgod created man in his own imageâ€ mythâ€¦.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Extreme environmentalism has become the cool new hip communismâ€¦ Itâ€™s anti-man, and itâ€™s BULLS*~T !  They believe all sorts of nonsense, and they believe it with a religious fervorâ€¦  Theyâ€™re so whacked out that they think CO2 is causing the planet to get dangerously too warmâ€¦  If youâ€™re drinking all that Kool-Aid youâ€™re in for a rude awakening !&#8221;</p>
<p>I wonder how many of these folks share your worldview, Swemson.  Virtually all, I would wager.  And every specific person you mentioned in these quotes who isn&#8217;t overtly atheist is aligned with your general views, I wager.  Including Obama.  Excepting Darwin.  Darwin had the honesty to admit he was an agnostic, the only true logical stance for anyone rejecting theism.</p>
<p>But then again, he was a scientist living in an age before Marxism,  and before politic0-science came to be dominated by the institution of politico-atheism.  That&#8217;s one real problem I have with these blankety-blank Marxists, Swemson.  They politicize EVERYTHING.</p>
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		<title>By: swemson</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/10/10/from-the-pen-of-david-horowitz-october-10-2009/#comment-16364</link>
		<dc:creator>swemson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well at least you consistent...

&lt;i&gt;Atheism as a tool of the left for the purposes of subversion is an institution. It is institutionalized as a strategy and victim group for expunging religion from the American public forum. It is an institution in America that exists for the sole purpose of attacking a certain segment of the Christian population that is most associated with the Republican party and opposition to the Democrat party.&lt;/i&gt;

Atheism is not a movement, or an institution or any kind.

Atheists, a small but growing group of RATIONAL INDIVIDUALS, simply look at your silly superstitions in a bemused way, and wonder how a rational human mind could believe in such utter nonsense...

&lt;i&gt;Perhaps nothing illustrates the radical agenda of institutional atheism better than their insistence that the religious right controls the GOP and is on the verge of declaring a theocracy in America. Nothing could be further from the truth.&lt;/i&gt;

As typical of most religious loons, you have these fantasies which you fabricate completely in your own warped mind, and then proclaim them to all as if they were facts... Nobody believes any such thing... You&#039;re simply DELUSIONAL.

&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;â€œQuestion with boldness even the existence of God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fearâ€  Thomas Jefferson&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well at least you consistent&#8230;</p>
<p><i>Atheism as a tool of the left for the purposes of subversion is an institution. It is institutionalized as a strategy and victim group for expunging religion from the American public forum. It is an institution in America that exists for the sole purpose of attacking a certain segment of the Christian population that is most associated with the Republican party and opposition to the Democrat party.</i></p>
<p>Atheism is not a movement, or an institution or any kind.</p>
<p>Atheists, a small but growing group of RATIONAL INDIVIDUALS, simply look at your silly superstitions in a bemused way, and wonder how a rational human mind could believe in such utter nonsense&#8230;</p>
<p><i>Perhaps nothing illustrates the radical agenda of institutional atheism better than their insistence that the religious right controls the GOP and is on the verge of declaring a theocracy in America. Nothing could be further from the truth.</i></p>
<p>As typical of most religious loons, you have these fantasies which you fabricate completely in your own warped mind, and then proclaim them to all as if they were facts&#8230; Nobody believes any such thing&#8230; You&#8217;re simply DELUSIONAL.</p>
<p><i><b>â€œQuestion with boldness even the existence of God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fearâ€  Thomas Jefferson</b></i></p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 10:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Atheism as a tool of the left for the purposes of subversion is an institution.  It is institutionalized as a strategy and victim group for expunging religion from the American public forum.  It is an institution in America that exists for the sole purpose of attacking a certain segment of the Christian population that is most associated with the Republican party and opposition to the Democrat party.  The easiest way to identify members of this institution is by their selective bigotry.

Perhaps nothing illustrates the radical agenda of institutional atheism better than their insistence that the religious right controls the GOP and is on the verge of declaring a theocracy in America.  Nothing could be further from the truth.

America cannot be saved by converting it to something other than what it was created to be.  I for one will do nothing to cooperate with any so-called &quot;conservative&quot; movement that seeks to somehow establish some sort of post-modern, multicultural mongrel society that is somehow magically free of all socialist influence.  Such a society cannot and will not be able to resist the coming onslaught of Islam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Atheism as a tool of the left for the purposes of subversion is an institution.  It is institutionalized as a strategy and victim group for expunging religion from the American public forum.  It is an institution in America that exists for the sole purpose of attacking a certain segment of the Christian population that is most associated with the Republican party and opposition to the Democrat party.  The easiest way to identify members of this institution is by their selective bigotry.</p>
<p>Perhaps nothing illustrates the radical agenda of institutional atheism better than their insistence that the religious right controls the GOP and is on the verge of declaring a theocracy in America.  Nothing could be further from the truth.</p>
<p>America cannot be saved by converting it to something other than what it was created to be.  I for one will do nothing to cooperate with any so-called &#8220;conservative&#8221; movement that seeks to somehow establish some sort of post-modern, multicultural mongrel society that is somehow magically free of all socialist influence.  Such a society cannot and will not be able to resist the coming onslaught of Islam.</p>
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		<title>By: swemson</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/10/10/from-the-pen-of-david-horowitz-october-10-2009/#comment-16300</link>
		<dc:creator>swemson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You make several errors here.

First, atheism is NOT an institution

Religion, which encompasses many different institutions, basically claims that everything was created and is controlled by god (forgive the oversimplification)

Atheists (there IS no church of atheism) are people who have seen no evidence to support the god belief .

You say that &lt;i&gt;atheists will always tend to be hostile and repressive toward those of faith.&lt;/i&gt;

Obviously you think that I too am hostile and repressive like that, but that&#039;s not the case. As I&#039;ve said several times in these blogs, I don&#039;t care what any religious people think or believe, unless and until they try to impose their beliefs on me through the force of law.

My objective HERE is simple. I believe that there are many on the left who are indeed hostile towards religion, and who perceive the republican party as being controlled by the christian right... I didn&#039;t say it is, I said that many PERCEIVE that it is, and I believe that some % of them, actually favor small govt, low taxes, a strong defense etc, but vote democratic because they are afraid of, or disgusted by the religious right... remember, I&#039;m not referring to all christians here, I&#039;m referring to the zealots who parade around picketing Planned Parenthood, and who constantly rail against gay marriage...

On today&#039;s FrontPage there&#039;s an article by Michelle Malkin about another horrid far left politician, and the first descriptive thing she says about her is:

&lt;i&gt;Scozzafava is an abortion rights advocate who favors gay marriage./&lt;/i&gt;

She illustrates my point by saying that first, before getting into what I consider to be the REAL problem with her as a potential congresswoman, that she&#039;s a far left tax &amp; spend dem with ties to a socialist group that&#039;s tied to ACORN..

I&#039;m not out to destroy religion, and never go out of my way to ridicule religious people in real life... but I intentionally stir up the pot here in these blogs, to make the point that our country is crumbling right in front of our eyes because a bunch of communists who really ARE hostile to religion, have conned the American public into think that they were something other than what they actually are, and that when we on the right overtly display our religion, we provide them with a target that they&#039;re using quite effectively against us...

Sarah Palin is the best example of the point I&#039;m trying to make.... She made the left virtually apoplectic... and why ? Certainly it had nothing to do with her record as a governor, or her looks, or her speaking style.. It was because of the forthright and direct way in which she threw her religious and moral principles in their face.... I love Palin, I think she&#039;s smart, honest and trustworthy, and would make a fine president.. her religious beliefs wouldn&#039;t dissuade me from voting for... To me, the important thing is that I respect her principles, regardless of how she arrived at them.... But the left demonizer her so effectively because of her religious beliefs, that she probably cost the republicans lots of votes because of that.

I may think religion is a silly waste of  time, but I&#039;m not against it... It teaches people to live by the same ethical standards that I live by, why would I be against that?

What I&#039;m against is COMMUNISM, and all other forms of collectivism, and I believe that if the right can just keep their religious views to themselves, for the next few election cycles, that we improve our chances of taking our country back from these evil people.

I&#039;ve been an atheist for over 50 years, and this is the first time that I&#039;ve ever gotten involved in this debate... The reason why I&#039;m doing it now, is because our country has never before been as vulnerable as it is today, to what these communists can eventually do to us... We&#039;re in a crisis, an emergency, and as the old saying goes, desperate men do desperate deeds.

I may be wrong, in thinking that we wouldn&#039;t pick up enough votes to make it worthwhile to do this... but elections are often won by 1% of the vote or less, and I have good reason to believe that the advantage we&#039;d gain if we can do this might well be even more that a percent or two....

Look up the Pew Research Conter&#039;s study on religion in America today..

http://religions.pewforum.org/affiliations

The 4th largest group, with 16.1% of the population, is non-believers. Most religious people don&#039;t believe that number, but in fact there&#039;s good reason to believe that it&#039;s actually much higher than that....

If you think about this rationally as an American, rather than emotionally as a christian, you might just see that I&#039;m onto something here...

We&#039;re in BIG trouble here, and if America is going to be destroyed, as appears likely right now, what the heck do we have to lose?

S

PS: Your comments about Dawkins are absurd.... His &quot;militancy&quot; comes from 9/11, perhaps the most brutal example of the evil that religion has brought down upon mankind in all of human history.... His militant atheism, is simply one in which he no longer automatically shows respect to people&#039;s religious beliefs &quot;because they&#039;re &quot;holy&quot; or &quot;sacred&quot; or &quot;unquestionable&quot;. Dawkins isn&#039;t even a political activist, he&#039;s a biologist. The main thrust of all of his writings and speeches on the issue relate to the disgusting and  dishonest way in which religious zealots try to attack Darwin...

Try to find another form of exercise besides jumping to conclusions !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You make several errors here.</p>
<p>First, atheism is NOT an institution</p>
<p>Religion, which encompasses many different institutions, basically claims that everything was created and is controlled by god (forgive the oversimplification)</p>
<p>Atheists (there IS no church of atheism) are people who have seen no evidence to support the god belief .</p>
<p>You say that <i>atheists will always tend to be hostile and repressive toward those of faith.</i></p>
<p>Obviously you think that I too am hostile and repressive like that, but that&#8217;s not the case. As I&#8217;ve said several times in these blogs, I don&#8217;t care what any religious people think or believe, unless and until they try to impose their beliefs on me through the force of law.</p>
<p>My objective HERE is simple. I believe that there are many on the left who are indeed hostile towards religion, and who perceive the republican party as being controlled by the christian right&#8230; I didn&#8217;t say it is, I said that many PERCEIVE that it is, and I believe that some % of them, actually favor small govt, low taxes, a strong defense etc, but vote democratic because they are afraid of, or disgusted by the religious right&#8230; remember, I&#8217;m not referring to all christians here, I&#8217;m referring to the zealots who parade around picketing Planned Parenthood, and who constantly rail against gay marriage&#8230;</p>
<p>On today&#8217;s FrontPage there&#8217;s an article by Michelle Malkin about another horrid far left politician, and the first descriptive thing she says about her is:</p>
<p><i>Scozzafava is an abortion rights advocate who favors gay marriage./</i></p>
<p>She illustrates my point by saying that first, before getting into what I consider to be the REAL problem with her as a potential congresswoman, that she&#8217;s a far left tax &amp; spend dem with ties to a socialist group that&#8217;s tied to ACORN..</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not out to destroy religion, and never go out of my way to ridicule religious people in real life&#8230; but I intentionally stir up the pot here in these blogs, to make the point that our country is crumbling right in front of our eyes because a bunch of communists who really ARE hostile to religion, have conned the American public into think that they were something other than what they actually are, and that when we on the right overtly display our religion, we provide them with a target that they&#8217;re using quite effectively against us&#8230;</p>
<p>Sarah Palin is the best example of the point I&#8217;m trying to make&#8230;. She made the left virtually apoplectic&#8230; and why ? Certainly it had nothing to do with her record as a governor, or her looks, or her speaking style.. It was because of the forthright and direct way in which she threw her religious and moral principles in their face&#8230;. I love Palin, I think she&#8217;s smart, honest and trustworthy, and would make a fine president.. her religious beliefs wouldn&#8217;t dissuade me from voting for&#8230; To me, the important thing is that I respect her principles, regardless of how she arrived at them&#8230;. But the left demonizer her so effectively because of her religious beliefs, that she probably cost the republicans lots of votes because of that.</p>
<p>I may think religion is a silly waste of  time, but I&#8217;m not against it&#8230; It teaches people to live by the same ethical standards that I live by, why would I be against that?</p>
<p>What I&#8217;m against is COMMUNISM, and all other forms of collectivism, and I believe that if the right can just keep their religious views to themselves, for the next few election cycles, that we improve our chances of taking our country back from these evil people.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been an atheist for over 50 years, and this is the first time that I&#8217;ve ever gotten involved in this debate&#8230; The reason why I&#8217;m doing it now, is because our country has never before been as vulnerable as it is today, to what these communists can eventually do to us&#8230; We&#8217;re in a crisis, an emergency, and as the old saying goes, desperate men do desperate deeds.</p>
<p>I may be wrong, in thinking that we wouldn&#8217;t pick up enough votes to make it worthwhile to do this&#8230; but elections are often won by 1% of the vote or less, and I have good reason to believe that the advantage we&#8217;d gain if we can do this might well be even more that a percent or two&#8230;.</p>
<p>Look up the Pew Research Conter&#8217;s study on religion in America today..</p>
<p><a href="http://religions.pewforum.org/affiliations" rel="nofollow">http://religions.pewforum.org/affiliations</a></p>
<p>The 4th largest group, with 16.1% of the population, is non-believers. Most religious people don&#8217;t believe that number, but in fact there&#8217;s good reason to believe that it&#8217;s actually much higher than that&#8230;.</p>
<p>If you think about this rationally as an American, rather than emotionally as a christian, you might just see that I&#8217;m onto something here&#8230;</p>
<p>We&#8217;re in BIG trouble here, and if America is going to be destroyed, as appears likely right now, what the heck do we have to lose?</p>
<p>S</p>
<p>PS: Your comments about Dawkins are absurd&#8230;. His &#8220;militancy&#8221; comes from 9/11, perhaps the most brutal example of the evil that religion has brought down upon mankind in all of human history&#8230;. His militant atheism, is simply one in which he no longer automatically shows respect to people&#8217;s religious beliefs &#8220;because they&#8217;re &#8220;holy&#8221; or &#8220;sacred&#8221; or &#8220;unquestionable&#8221;. Dawkins isn&#8217;t even a political activist, he&#8217;s a biologist. The main thrust of all of his writings and speeches on the issue relate to the disgusting and  dishonest way in which religious zealots try to attack Darwin&#8230;</p>
<p>Try to find another form of exercise besides jumping to conclusions !</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
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		<description>I am aware that you have claimed to be a libertarian.  And a fiscal conservative juxtaposed with atheism, a la Ayn Rand.

And that&#039;s why I mention that your atheist worldview can&#039;t possibly bring about conservative policies.   Traditional Constitutionalists in America should be Jeffersonian in their approach to religious pluralism.  But atheists will always tend to be hostile and repressive toward those of faith.  They will tend to do it politically by any means necessary.   That is only one of the reasons that Christians commonly charge that atheists will not assent to moral absolutes.  Jefferson once said that he cared not if a man believed in no gods or twenty gods.  But I suppose he failed to realize that atheism as an institution would never reciprocate in kind.  A free society can never be free when anti-freedom elements are allowed to abuse freedom.  This lesson has sadly been lost on conservatives.

Your disdain for the feelings and beliefs of those of faith in this thread alone demonstrates the &quot;militant&quot; Dawkins approach of the left using atheism as an instrument of public policy.  I wonder to what extent Dawkins advocates his militancy?  Have you ever wondered?  Firing squads?  Ghettos?  Or just denial of access to the public forum as you advocate?

I think that I&#039;ve illustrated the point I came here to make.  That atheist and theistic minds cannot possibly coexist within the same movement against Marxism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am aware that you have claimed to be a libertarian.  And a fiscal conservative juxtaposed with atheism, a la Ayn Rand.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s why I mention that your atheist worldview can&#8217;t possibly bring about conservative policies.   Traditional Constitutionalists in America should be Jeffersonian in their approach to religious pluralism.  But atheists will always tend to be hostile and repressive toward those of faith.  They will tend to do it politically by any means necessary.   That is only one of the reasons that Christians commonly charge that atheists will not assent to moral absolutes.  Jefferson once said that he cared not if a man believed in no gods or twenty gods.  But I suppose he failed to realize that atheism as an institution would never reciprocate in kind.  A free society can never be free when anti-freedom elements are allowed to abuse freedom.  This lesson has sadly been lost on conservatives.</p>
<p>Your disdain for the feelings and beliefs of those of faith in this thread alone demonstrates the &#8220;militant&#8221; Dawkins approach of the left using atheism as an instrument of public policy.  I wonder to what extent Dawkins advocates his militancy?  Have you ever wondered?  Firing squads?  Ghettos?  Or just denial of access to the public forum as you advocate?</p>
<p>I think that I&#8217;ve illustrated the point I came here to make.  That atheist and theistic minds cannot possibly coexist within the same movement against Marxism.</p>
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		<dc:creator>swemson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 01:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does your delusional view of the world around you know no limits.. ?

When did I ever claim to be a conservative ? (other than as it refers to fiscal policy)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does your delusional view of the world around you know no limits.. ?</p>
<p>When did I ever claim to be a conservative ? (other than as it refers to fiscal policy)</p>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
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		<description>No.  I don&#039;t usually hear any Christians saying the things that I say about this subject, the things you call &quot;twisted nonsense.&quot;  That&#039;s what bothers me most about conservatives in general.    Many of the founding fathers believed exactly what I think now.

I would give serious consideration to this business, because you may find that you are only masquerading as a conservative.  I think you just cannot admit that the humanist worldview is being revealed as a failure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No.  I don&#8217;t usually hear any Christians saying the things that I say about this subject, the things you call &#8220;twisted nonsense.&#8221;  That&#8217;s what bothers me most about conservatives in general.    Many of the founding fathers believed exactly what I think now.</p>
<p>I would give serious consideration to this business, because you may find that you are only masquerading as a conservative.  I think you just cannot admit that the humanist worldview is being revealed as a failure.</p>
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