Comments on: Neo-Communist Left (Michael Moore) Debates Neo-Socialist Left (Bill Maher) on Real Time, Part 2 http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/10/07/neo-communist-left-michael-moore-debates-neo-socialist-left-bill-maher-on-real-time-part-2/ Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:34:39 +0000 hourly 1 By: Mary Sparrowdancer http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/10/07/neo-communist-left-michael-moore-debates-neo-socialist-left-bill-maher-on-real-time-part-2/#comment-15801 Mary Sparrowdancer Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:53:18 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=10689#comment-15801 The US was supposed to be a Republic, but it descended into a state of Socialism embracing Marxist Communism with Woodrow Wilson at the helm. And he was also hiding behind the title of "Progressive Democrat." Here's the history, including minutes of Communist meetings held in NYC, ("We are not fighting for co-operative commonwealths, for any abstract idea of human brotherhood. We are fighting to enthrone ourselves in power, and after that we will see what we will do. [Applause.]" http://www.rense.com/general88/uscom.htm The US was supposed to be a Republic, but it descended into a state of Socialism embracing Marxist Communism with Woodrow Wilson at the helm. And he was also hiding behind the title of “Progressive Democrat.” Here’s the history, including minutes of Communist meetings held in NYC, (“We are not fighting for co-operative commonwealths, for any abstract idea of human brotherhood. We are fighting to enthrone ourselves in power, and after that we will see what we will do. [Applause.]”
http://www.rense.com/general88/uscom.htm

]]> By: Tom Trevor http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/10/07/neo-communist-left-michael-moore-debates-neo-socialist-left-bill-maher-on-real-time-part-2/#comment-15800 Tom Trevor Thu, 08 Oct 2009 15:28:26 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=10689#comment-15800 From the New Oxford American Dictionary that is included in Mac OS 10. "republic |riˈpəblik| noun a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president rather than a monarch. • archaic figurative a community or group with a certain equality between its members." From the New Oxford American Dictionary that is included in Mac OS 10.

“republic |riˈpÉ™blik|
noun
a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president rather than a monarch.
• archaic figurative a community or group with a certain equality between its members.”

]]> By: Paddy Donovan http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/10/07/neo-communist-left-michael-moore-debates-neo-socialist-left-bill-maher-on-real-time-part-2/#comment-15799 Paddy Donovan Thu, 08 Oct 2009 14:56:52 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=10689#comment-15799 Good to see a civilized conversation between people who may disagree Good to see a civilized conversation between people who may disagree

]]> By: Hammer http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/10/07/neo-communist-left-michael-moore-debates-neo-socialist-left-bill-maher-on-real-time-part-2/#comment-15798 Hammer Thu, 08 Oct 2009 13:40:39 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=10689#comment-15798 "The majority of people want a public health insurance option as well as the majority of doctors and nurses, so what’s the problem?" If this were true we would have had this option when Clinton was in office or there wouldn’t be as much of an issue getting it now. Many doctors and nurses are outspoken about Obama-care "The big insurance companies have far too much power and have many congressmen and even Obama in their pockets." Then why is Obama trying to cut them out and have a public run healthcare system? “The majority of people want a public health insurance option as well as the majority of doctors and nurses, so what’s the problem?”

If this were true we would have had this option when Clinton was in office or there wouldn’t be as much of an issue getting it now. Many doctors and nurses are outspoken about Obama-care

“The big insurance companies have far too much power and have many congressmen and even Obama in their pockets.”

Then why is Obama trying to cut them out and have a public run healthcare system?

]]> By: Julie Trevor http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/10/07/neo-communist-left-michael-moore-debates-neo-socialist-left-bill-maher-on-real-time-part-2/#comment-15797 Julie Trevor Thu, 08 Oct 2009 11:04:35 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=10689#comment-15797 What needs to be consistently pointed out by definition is the perils of majority rules (Democratic form of Government) and contrasted from the democratic process. When well defined; people will see the tyranny proposed by Michael Moore et al. Hopefully. What needs to be consistently pointed out by definition is the perils of majority rules (Democratic form of Government) and contrasted from the democratic process.

When well defined; people will see the tyranny proposed by Michael Moore et al.
Hopefully.

]]> By: keithrage http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/10/07/neo-communist-left-michael-moore-debates-neo-socialist-left-bill-maher-on-real-time-part-2/#comment-15796 keithrage Thu, 08 Oct 2009 10:57:15 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=10689#comment-15796 They have both been in the "fools' list for quite some time, continual confirmation continues. They have both been in the “fools’ list for quite some time, continual confirmation continues.

]]> By: David Swindle http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/10/07/neo-communist-left-michael-moore-debates-neo-socialist-left-bill-maher-on-real-time-part-2/#comment-15795 David Swindle Thu, 08 Oct 2009 01:57:36 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=10689#comment-15795 You're describing a democratic republic, which is accurate. Watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7M-7LkvcVw Do read "Life Inc." and fight corporations in that fashion. You’re describing a democratic republic, which is accurate.

Watch this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7M-7LkvcVw

Do read “Life Inc.” and fight corporations in that fashion.

]]> By: Ben Hoffman http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/10/07/neo-communist-left-michael-moore-debates-neo-socialist-left-bill-maher-on-real-time-part-2/#comment-15792 Ben Hoffman Thu, 08 Oct 2009 01:39:50 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=10689#comment-15792 No, we have a democracy that's constrained by laws (the Constitution). The majority can enact pretty much any legislation provided it doesn't violate the constitution. That said, I'll have to check out this Douglas Rushkoff character. That Frontline episode "Merchants of Cool" sounds interesting. No, we have a democracy that’s constrained by laws (the Constitution). The majority can enact pretty much any legislation provided it doesn’t violate the constitution.

That said, I’ll have to check out this Douglas Rushkoff character. That Frontline episode “Merchants of Cool” sounds interesting.

]]> By: David Swindle http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/10/07/neo-communist-left-michael-moore-debates-neo-socialist-left-bill-maher-on-real-time-part-2/#comment-15794 David Swindle Thu, 08 Oct 2009 00:57:39 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=10689#comment-15794 We aren't a democracy. (And your definition of democracy is inaccurate.) We're a republic. A democracy is a tyranny of the majority. We aren't ruled by people we're ruled by laws. In a democracy 51% of the people can vote to torture and rape the other 49% percent. That's not the system of government we have. By all means fight corporatism. I'll stand with you for that. Just do it Douglas Rushkoff-style: http://97.74.65.51/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=35663 -D We aren’t a democracy. (And your definition of democracy is inaccurate.) We’re a republic. A democracy is a tyranny of the majority. We aren’t ruled by people we’re ruled by laws. In a democracy 51% of the people can vote to torture and rape the other 49% percent. That’s not the system of government we have.

By all means fight corporatism. I’ll stand with you for that. Just do it Douglas Rushkoff-style:
http://97.74.65.51/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=35663

-D

]]> By: Ben Hoffman http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/10/07/neo-communist-left-michael-moore-debates-neo-socialist-left-bill-maher-on-real-time-part-2/#comment-15793 Ben Hoffman Thu, 08 Oct 2009 00:35:54 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=10689#comment-15793 If you define democracy as a government of the people, by the people, and for the people, we are indeed far from that ideal. What we have to a great extent is corporatism. The majority of people want a public health insurance option as well as the majority of doctors and nurses, so what's the problem? The big insurance companies have far too much power and have many congressmen and even Obama in their pockets. If you define democracy as a government of the people, by the people, and for the people, we are indeed far from that ideal. What we have to a great extent is corporatism. The majority of people want a public health insurance option as well as the majority of doctors and nurses, so what’s the problem? The big insurance companies have far too much power and have many congressmen and even Obama in their pockets.

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