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	<title>Comments on: Ron Radosh: What Conservatives Need to Know About Joe McCarthy</title>
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		<title>By: Vernon Kuhns</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/09/30/ron-radosh-what-conservatives-need-to-know-about-joe-mccarthy/#comment-67655</link>
		<dc:creator>Vernon Kuhns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 20:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What you appear to be saying is that since Joe was a typical politician who was self promoting and made some bad mistakes we should continue to allow the left and others to  demonise him and give even further cover to the actual Communist problems in this country then and since?? 
 
Exactly how ignorant do you think we are??? 
 
Your apologist recounting of a  temporary retreat by the Commies in response to an Intelligence coup is even more sad. Ony idiots ask to fold the war machine when the enemy pulls back to regroup. 
 
Your thinly covered paeon to there wern&#039;t no problem and it was all Joe&#039;s fault is sickening. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you appear to be saying is that since Joe was a typical politician who was self promoting and made some bad mistakes we should continue to allow the left and others to  demonise him and give even further cover to the actual Communist problems in this country then and since?? </p>
<p>Exactly how ignorant do you think we are??? </p>
<p>Your apologist recounting of a  temporary retreat by the Commies in response to an Intelligence coup is even more sad. Ony idiots ask to fold the war machine when the enemy pulls back to regroup. </p>
<p>Your thinly covered paeon to there wern&#039;t no problem and it was all Joe&#039;s fault is sickening.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Meyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Meyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 14:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re wrong about Ayn Rand.  She testified at the House Un-American Activities Committee back in the late 1940&#039;s. Her testimony was about the communist ideas that were being put into films.

She was originally going to show how the movie &quot;The Best Years of Our Lives&quot; contained anti-capitalist themes but the committee limited her to talking about &quot;Song of Russia&quot; which was an obvious propaganda film. &quot;The Best Years of Our Lives&quot; was a very popular film and it was the committee that was afraid to have her testify about it, not her that was afraid to testify.

Rand, like Elia Kazan, was never forgiven for her testimony even though she didn&#039;t name communists in the industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re wrong about Ayn Rand.  She testified at the House Un-American Activities Committee back in the late 1940&#8242;s. Her testimony was about the communist ideas that were being put into films.</p>
<p>She was originally going to show how the movie &#8220;The Best Years of Our Lives&#8221; contained anti-capitalist themes but the committee limited her to talking about &#8220;Song of Russia&#8221; which was an obvious propaganda film. &#8220;The Best Years of Our Lives&#8221; was a very popular film and it was the committee that was afraid to have her testify about it, not her that was afraid to testify.</p>
<p>Rand, like Elia Kazan, was never forgiven for her testimony even though she didn&#8217;t name communists in the industry.</p>
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		<title>By: Couer De Leon</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/09/30/ron-radosh-what-conservatives-need-to-know-about-joe-mccarthy/#comment-14123</link>
		<dc:creator>Couer De Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 00:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone keeps saying that McCarthy&#039;s short comings are not discussed...what hogwash.  I have yet to read any commentary regarding Joe McCarthy, from the left or right, that didn&#039;t acknowledge that this was a man with some serious problems.  In point of fact, for almost 50 years that is all you read about him....only since the VENONA intercepts have been released do we know that he was correct.

I would like to add that McCarthy only represented the Senate side of these investigations.  There also was a House side known as the House Un-American Activities Committee.  Since they didnâ€™t demonstrate the emotional problems the McCarthy did we donâ€™t hear that much about themâ€¦.however they were just as enthusiastic as McCarthy and it was HUAC  that went after the Hollywood crowd, not McCarthy; his concern was in government.

Furthermore McCarthy wasn&#039;t a conservative.  He may have been a Republican, but he only ran as a Republican because he couldn&#039;t win as a Democrat.  Either way he was a classical liberal (not to be mistaken with a modern liberal) and under no circumstances could he be considered a conservative.

Lastly...where is the evidence that all the networks were broken up?  Of all the VENONA intercepts they only decoded about ten percent of them and of that ten percent they were able to identify around 160 spies.  The other ninety percent were never decoded and they have a large number of code names that they cannot identify to this day and some of those are from the 160 spies that they know for sure existed.  Considering this; how do we know that the networks were broken up by McCarthyâ€™s time?

This posting didn&#039;t clarify anything, it merely attempted to divert attention away from the fact that those spies did exist...there were most likely a lot more that were unknown and continued in their networks for years to follow.  Again I find Mr. Radosh&#039;s comments lack depth, they are not complete, they are not balanced, and in the end they lead people to inaccurate conclusions.   I keep wondering why you bother to post his comments?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone keeps saying that McCarthy&#8217;s short comings are not discussed&#8230;what hogwash.  I have yet to read any commentary regarding Joe McCarthy, from the left or right, that didn&#8217;t acknowledge that this was a man with some serious problems.  In point of fact, for almost 50 years that is all you read about him&#8230;.only since the VENONA intercepts have been released do we know that he was correct.</p>
<p>I would like to add that McCarthy only represented the Senate side of these investigations.  There also was a House side known as the House Un-American Activities Committee.  Since they didnâ€™t demonstrate the emotional problems the McCarthy did we donâ€™t hear that much about themâ€¦.however they were just as enthusiastic as McCarthy and it was HUAC  that went after the Hollywood crowd, not McCarthy; his concern was in government.</p>
<p>Furthermore McCarthy wasn&#8217;t a conservative.  He may have been a Republican, but he only ran as a Republican because he couldn&#8217;t win as a Democrat.  Either way he was a classical liberal (not to be mistaken with a modern liberal) and under no circumstances could he be considered a conservative.</p>
<p>Lastly&#8230;where is the evidence that all the networks were broken up?  Of all the VENONA intercepts they only decoded about ten percent of them and of that ten percent they were able to identify around 160 spies.  The other ninety percent were never decoded and they have a large number of code names that they cannot identify to this day and some of those are from the 160 spies that they know for sure existed.  Considering this; how do we know that the networks were broken up by McCarthyâ€™s time?</p>
<p>This posting didn&#8217;t clarify anything, it merely attempted to divert attention away from the fact that those spies did exist&#8230;there were most likely a lot more that were unknown and continued in their networks for years to follow.  Again I find Mr. Radosh&#8217;s comments lack depth, they are not complete, they are not balanced, and in the end they lead people to inaccurate conclusions.   I keep wondering why you bother to post his comments?</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Kelley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Kelley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then, as now, we are adrift in a desert of complacent democracy while we are herded by a majority. As a Republic we are required to SUPPORT and DEFEND it â€¦ now and then, perhaps we need to grow a spine! He did; we didnâ€™t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then, as now, we are adrift in a desert of complacent democracy while we are herded by a majority. As a Republic we are required to SUPPORT and DEFEND it â€¦ now and then, perhaps we need to grow a spine! He did; we didnâ€™t.</p>
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		<title>By: The Inquisitor</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/09/30/ron-radosh-what-conservatives-need-to-know-about-joe-mccarthy/#comment-14140</link>
		<dc:creator>The Inquisitor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 19:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Calvin Freiburger, you are quite welcome. Glad to be of service.

You&#039;re quite right; I certainly don&#039;t want to overlook McCarthy&#039;s failings. The only problem is that when I look at that chapter of history I can&#039;t see them. They are so overshadowed by the failings (too generous a word) of his detractors.

We should indeed stand for history -- and for what is right. Those who are willing to sacrifice McCarthy on the alter of expedience and acceptance are cowards. Their willingness to live with a lie will ultimately do them and their cause immeasurable harm.

Radosh really is a piece of work. Evans spent years (I believe over ten years) researching source material for his book, and Radosh accuses him of plagiarizing from his book. This from a person who would have known more about Blacklisted than he did if he had just looked at the pictures. What a laugh! How insulting from such a shoddy journalist!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Calvin Freiburger, you are quite welcome. Glad to be of service.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re quite right; I certainly don&#8217;t want to overlook McCarthy&#8217;s failings. The only problem is that when I look at that chapter of history I can&#8217;t see them. They are so overshadowed by the failings (too generous a word) of his detractors.</p>
<p>We should indeed stand for history &#8212; and for what is right. Those who are willing to sacrifice McCarthy on the alter of expedience and acceptance are cowards. Their willingness to live with a lie will ultimately do them and their cause immeasurable harm.</p>
<p>Radosh really is a piece of work. Evans spent years (I believe over ten years) researching source material for his book, and Radosh accuses him of plagiarizing from his book. This from a person who would have known more about Blacklisted than he did if he had just looked at the pictures. What a laugh! How insulting from such a shoddy journalist!</p>
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		<title>By: Calvin Freiburger</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/09/30/ron-radosh-what-conservatives-need-to-know-about-joe-mccarthy/#comment-14139</link>
		<dc:creator>Calvin Freiburger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link, Inquisitor.

I don&#039;t think anyone is interested in whitewashing McCarthy&#039;s shortcomings, but I also don&#039;t think it&#039;s a lost cause to remind people of the good he did and correct the smears against him, a.) because &quot;McCarthyism&quot; feeds into the Left&#039;s mythology about an America that doesn&#039;t *really* have enemies, b.) because we should always stand for history over revisionism, and c.) because a good, if flawed, man deserves better than to be remembered as the monster the Left has made him into.

Also, it seems pretty clear that Radosh falsely accused Evans of plagiarism, which I think should be kept in mind when we assess what Radosh has to say on the matter (to say nothing of Evans&#039; rebuttals of numerous claims in Radosh&#039;s review).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link, Inquisitor.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think anyone is interested in whitewashing McCarthy&#8217;s shortcomings, but I also don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a lost cause to remind people of the good he did and correct the smears against him, a.) because &#8220;McCarthyism&#8221; feeds into the Left&#8217;s mythology about an America that doesn&#8217;t *really* have enemies, b.) because we should always stand for history over revisionism, and c.) because a good, if flawed, man deserves better than to be remembered as the monster the Left has made him into.</p>
<p>Also, it seems pretty clear that Radosh falsely accused Evans of plagiarism, which I think should be kept in mind when we assess what Radosh has to say on the matter (to say nothing of Evans&#8217; rebuttals of numerous claims in Radosh&#8217;s review).</p>
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		<title>By: The Inquisitor</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/09/30/ron-radosh-what-conservatives-need-to-know-about-joe-mccarthy/#comment-14138</link>
		<dc:creator>The Inquisitor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh. well. I can&#039;t get this to appear in the right place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh. well. I can&#8217;t get this to appear in the right place.</p>
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		<title>By: The Inquisitor</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/09/30/ron-radosh-what-conservatives-need-to-know-about-joe-mccarthy/#comment-14137</link>
		<dc:creator>The Inquisitor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the links. What a pleasure to read!

Hereâ€™s the link you are looking for

http://www.anncoulter.com/cgi-local/article.cgi?article=228

Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the links. What a pleasure to read!</p>
<p>Hereâ€™s the link you are looking for</p>
<p><a href="http://www.anncoulter.com/cgi-local/article.cgi?article=228" rel="nofollow">http://www.anncoulter.com/cgi-local/article.cgi?article=228</a></p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: The Inquisitor</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/09/30/ron-radosh-what-conservatives-need-to-know-about-joe-mccarthy/#comment-14136</link>
		<dc:creator>The Inquisitor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the links. What a pleasure to read!

Here&#039;s the link you are looking for

http://www.anncoulter.com/cgi-local/article.cgi?article=228

Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the links. What a pleasure to read!</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the link you are looking for</p>
<p><a href="http://www.anncoulter.com/cgi-local/article.cgi?article=228" rel="nofollow">http://www.anncoulter.com/cgi-local/article.cgi?article=228</a></p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: The Inquisitor</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/09/30/ron-radosh-what-conservatives-need-to-know-about-joe-mccarthy/#comment-14135</link>
		<dc:creator>The Inquisitor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 13:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>M. Stanton Evans: What Conservatives Need to Know About Ron Radosh

http://www.anncoulter.com/cgi-local/article.cgi?article=228

M. Stanton Evans is a distinguished writer and Conservative. His book &quot;The Liberal Establishment&quot; appeared not long after Buckley&#039;s &quot;Up From Liberalism.&quot; Both Buckley (See for example &quot;McCarthy and His Enemies.&quot;) and Evans supported Joe McCarthy.

Read the linked article. I&#039;ll take Buckley and Evans to Radosh any day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>M. Stanton Evans: What Conservatives Need to Know About Ron Radosh</p>
<p><a href="http://www.anncoulter.com/cgi-local/article.cgi?article=228" rel="nofollow">http://www.anncoulter.com/cgi-local/article.cgi?article=228</a></p>
<p>M. Stanton Evans is a distinguished writer and Conservative. His book &#8220;The Liberal Establishment&#8221; appeared not long after Buckley&#8217;s &#8220;Up From Liberalism.&#8221; Both Buckley (See for example &#8220;McCarthy and His Enemies.&#8221;) and Evans supported Joe McCarthy.</p>
<p>Read the linked article. I&#8217;ll take Buckley and Evans to Radosh any day.</p>
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		<title>By: jbtrevor</title>
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		<dc:creator>jbtrevor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 13:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to mention aligning with McCarthy without acknowledging his shortcomings/recklessness immediately discredits you, especially by the Left. Why put yourself in that position if you wish to be taken seriously?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to mention aligning with McCarthy without acknowledging his shortcomings/recklessness immediately discredits you, especially by the Left. Why put yourself in that position if you wish to be taken seriously?</p>
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		<title>By: David Swindle</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/09/30/ron-radosh-what-conservatives-need-to-know-about-joe-mccarthy/#comment-14133</link>
		<dc:creator>David Swindle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 13:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Making McCarthy into a hero is counterproductive toward the objective of expanding Conservatism to draw in the apolitical, the moderate, and the open-minded Left. A Conservatism that has Joe McCarthy and Roy Cohn as its symbols is one doomed to failure.

We have a far greater selection of heroes to choose from who are far less flawed. There&#039;s no need to resort to damaged goods to McCarthy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Making McCarthy into a hero is counterproductive toward the objective of expanding Conservatism to draw in the apolitical, the moderate, and the open-minded Left. A Conservatism that has Joe McCarthy and Roy Cohn as its symbols is one doomed to failure.</p>
<p>We have a far greater selection of heroes to choose from who are far less flawed. There&#8217;s no need to resort to damaged goods to McCarthy.</p>
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