Comments on: Bias on FOX News http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/09/30/bias-on-fox-news/ Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:34:39 +0000 hourly 1 By: H Lee Poteet http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/09/30/bias-on-fox-news/#comment-14105 H Lee Poteet Sun, 04 Oct 2009 20:07:03 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=10030#comment-14105 Both Limbaugh and Hannity have criticized the Republican Party constantly over the last nine years for their failures. So great was their criticism and so constant that i believe that it was a factor in many conservatives not voting for McCain as he would have been even less conservative and more compromising that either H.W. or W. Since Obama got no more votes that John Kerry the reason he won was those conservatives be they Republicans or Independents who voted for Bush but who could not bring themselves to vote for McCain. Both constantly warned the Republicans that their failure to curb spending and bring the nation back to the Constitution was what caused them to lose Congress in '06. Both Limbaugh and Hannity have criticized the Republican Party constantly over the last nine years for their failures. So great was their criticism and so constant that i believe that it was a factor in many conservatives not voting for McCain as he would have been even less conservative and more compromising that either H.W. or W.

Since Obama got no more votes that John Kerry the reason he won was those conservatives be they Republicans or Independents who voted for Bush but who could not bring themselves to vote for McCain. Both constantly warned the Republicans that their failure to curb spending and bring the nation back to the Constitution was what caused them to lose Congress in ’06.

]]> By: Jack Hampton http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/09/30/bias-on-fox-news/#comment-14104 Jack Hampton Sun, 04 Oct 2009 11:38:28 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=10030#comment-14104 Michael What is your source for the producer reving up the crowd comment? Producing for who? For you to make that comment about FOX is absurd Goldburg was not leveling that comment at the FOX news readers. Again Hannity and O'Reilly are opinion shows not news and Hannity and Beck make that distinction over and over. I am sure you believe that Katie Curad is even handed however. By the way Goldberg is really paid to make O'Rielly look good but is still more honest than any of the fringe media like ABC ,NBC or CNN no use listing them all. Bret Baier is far more main stream and honest reporter than anone the others can dig up. Michael
What is your source for the producer reving up the crowd comment? Producing for who? For you to make that comment about FOX is absurd Goldburg was not leveling that comment at the FOX news readers. Again Hannity and O’Reilly are opinion shows not news and Hannity and Beck make that distinction over and over. I am sure you believe that Katie Curad is even handed however. By the way Goldberg is really paid to make O’Rielly look good but is still more honest than any of the fringe media like ABC ,NBC or CNN no use listing them all. Bret Baier is far more main stream and honest reporter than anone the others can dig up.

]]> By: Michael http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/09/30/bias-on-fox-news/#comment-14103 Michael Sat, 03 Oct 2009 16:30:27 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=10030#comment-14103 "However, I have noticed Hannity’s tendency to greatly exaggerate a fact, or to take quotes out of context to support his positions. " Greatly exaggerate a fact = LYING. You can dance all around it though as you just did. "So Bernie Goldberg had a legitimate point and I congratulate FOX and Bill O’Reilly for having the guts to air the criticism of their own station. When was the last time you saw such self-criticism on the liberal talk shows?" Wow, did you want a cookie? Let's of course not forget, Heidi Noonan - Fox News Producer who was caught revving up the crowd during the 9/12 Tea Party. Fox News obviously doesn't know the difference between covering the news and promoting it. The better question is whether Fox will actually heed Goldberg's advice or be just as bad as the liberal stations. I think we all know the answer to that. “However, I have noticed Hannity’s tendency to greatly exaggerate a fact, or to take quotes out of context to support his positions. ”

Greatly exaggerate a fact = LYING. You can dance all around it though as you just did.

“So Bernie Goldberg had a legitimate point and I congratulate FOX and Bill O’Reilly for having the guts to air the criticism of their own station. When was the last time you saw such self-criticism on the liberal talk shows?”

Wow, did you want a cookie? Let’s of course not forget, Heidi Noonan – Fox News Producer who was caught revving up the crowd during the 9/12 Tea Party. Fox News obviously doesn’t know the difference between covering the news and promoting it. The better question is whether Fox will actually heed Goldberg’s advice or be just as bad as the liberal stations. I think we all know the answer to that.

]]> By: jbtrevor http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/09/30/bias-on-fox-news/#comment-14102 jbtrevor Sat, 03 Oct 2009 02:40:50 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=10030#comment-14102 David, thanks for the link to the Horowitz-Frum piece in frontpage I read it and if I could have commented on it when it was first posted I would have said: "Zing, good one David" Horowitz that is... Julie David, thanks for the link to the Horowitz-Frum piece in frontpage I read it and if I could have commented on it when it was first posted I would have said:

“Zing, good one David”

Horowitz that is…
Julie

]]> By: David Swindle http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/09/30/bias-on-fox-news/#comment-14101 David Swindle Fri, 02 Oct 2009 18:45:38 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=10030#comment-14101 I've blogged about this very subject: http://newsrealblog.com/2009/09/20/david-frum-refuses-to-acknowledge-the-whole-story-about-glenn-beck-and-ron-paul/ You're quite right. We can't tolerate everything and everyone. I’ve blogged about this very subject:

http://newsrealblog.com/2009/09/20/david-frum-refuses-to-acknowledge-the-whole-story-about-glenn-beck-and-ron-paul/

You’re quite right. We can’t tolerate everything and everyone.

]]> By: jhimmi http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/09/30/bias-on-fox-news/#comment-14100 jhimmi Fri, 02 Oct 2009 17:24:13 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=10030#comment-14100 Point taken. Off the topic of Hannity, though, it does seem like a line in the sand must be drawn at some point. If you follow the 'enemy of my enemy' attitude to its logical conclusion, don't you end up joining forces with the right wing equivalent of Van Jones (not sure if that would be a racist Nazi eugenicist or a paramilitary theocrat)? I do like the suggestion of engaging 'adversarial allies' in a persuasive discussion rather than publicly excoriating them. One tact is likely to advance your cause, the other is likely to undermine it. Point taken. Off the topic of Hannity, though, it does seem like a line in the sand must be drawn at some point. If you follow the ‘enemy of my enemy’ attitude to its logical conclusion, don’t you end up joining forces with the right wing equivalent of Van Jones (not sure if that would be a racist Nazi eugenicist or a paramilitary theocrat)?

I do like the suggestion of engaging ‘adversarial allies’ in a persuasive discussion rather than publicly excoriating them. One tact is likely to advance your cause, the other is likely to undermine it.

]]> By: winoceros http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/09/30/bias-on-fox-news/#comment-14099 winoceros Fri, 02 Oct 2009 16:33:38 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=10030#comment-14099 I'm not even sure Hannity is a registered Republican, if I remember correctly. I’m not even sure Hannity is a registered Republican, if I remember correctly.

]]> By: David Swindle http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/09/30/bias-on-fox-news/#comment-14098 David Swindle Fri, 02 Oct 2009 15:59:50 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=10030#comment-14098 You would be correct in this analysis Jhimmi. Glenn Beck would be a postmodern conservative and Sean Hannity would be more of a "True Believer conservative." These distinctions are only marginally important, though. (One should not get too hung up on them or let them divide us.) Hannity and Beck are still allies fighting the same war just in different fashions. A point from the end of Horowitz's response to David Frum in today's FrontPage that relates to this point: http://frontpagemag.com/?p=23807 "Coulter may be wrong about McCarthy, and she and I will disagree on this without it altering one iota of our affection for each other, just as Glenn Beck and I will probably disagree about Cass Sunstein. But unlike you I see Glenn and Ann as two champions of our cause, and regard it as a troubling blindness on your part that you can’t appreciate this." You would be correct in this analysis Jhimmi. Glenn Beck would be a postmodern conservative and Sean Hannity would be more of a “True Believer conservative.” These distinctions are only marginally important, though. (One should not get too hung up on them or let them divide us.) Hannity and Beck are still allies fighting the same war just in different fashions.

A point from the end of Horowitz’s response to David Frum in today’s FrontPage that relates to this point:
http://frontpagemag.com/?p=23807

“Coulter may be wrong about McCarthy, and she and I will disagree on this without it altering one iota of our affection for each other, just as Glenn Beck and I will probably disagree about Cass Sunstein. But unlike you I see Glenn and Ann as two champions of our cause, and regard it as a troubling blindness on your part that you can’t appreciate this.”

]]> By: Jack Hampton http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/09/30/bias-on-fox-news/#comment-14097 Jack Hampton Fri, 02 Oct 2009 12:01:12 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=10030#comment-14097 I have to agree and I am disapointed but I honestly believe the Massiah is hoping for the same here. I have to agree and I am disapointed but I honestly believe the Massiah is hoping for the same here.

]]> By: Jack Hampton http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/09/30/bias-on-fox-news/#comment-14096 Jack Hampton Fri, 02 Oct 2009 11:59:22 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=10030#comment-14096 VNVet Of course truth is more important I do not believe I indicated other wise. We are talking about two different view points here I do not believe that Goldberg was intentionaly lying. I believe that Bill O'Rielly has mistated the number of protesters on the mall in DC a couple of weeks ago and placed that number at about 75K It was a hell of a lot more than that I do not believe that Bill is lying about that but is relying on the word of a DC Fire Chief who I can just about assure you is a Obama supporter. But that does not make Bill untruthful just badly informed and poor research. With out doubt truth is most important but we are not talking about Chuck Schumer or Harry Reid or Dan Rather who are acknoledged liars here. I believe it is an honest difference of opinion on this subject. I could be wrong however, I was wrong last year about something but have forgot what it was VNVet
Of course truth is more important I do not believe I indicated other wise. We are talking about two different view points here I do not believe that Goldberg was intentionaly lying. I believe that Bill O’Rielly has mistated the number of protesters on the mall in DC a couple of weeks ago and placed that number at about 75K It was a hell of a lot more than that I do not believe that Bill is lying about that but is relying on the word of a DC Fire Chief who I can just about assure you is a Obama supporter. But that does not make Bill untruthful just badly informed and poor research. With out doubt truth is most important but we are not talking about Chuck Schumer or Harry Reid or Dan Rather who are acknoledged liars here. I believe it is an honest difference of opinion on this subject. I could be wrong however, I was wrong last year about something but have forgot what it was

]]> By: jhimmi http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/09/30/bias-on-fox-news/#comment-14095 jhimmi Fri, 02 Oct 2009 11:55:58 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=10030#comment-14095 I can't watch Hannity for any length of time, it's a combination of his voice (nasally, 40's announcer guy), those silly panels he has with completely uninformed guests, and a perceived lack of thoughtfulness. Glenn Beck is really good at is at least giving the impression that he's trying to find answers, rather than already having all of them. Hannity seems to think he has, as Mr. Swindle (I think) calls it, the Truth. I can’t watch Hannity for any length of time, it’s a combination of his voice (nasally, 40′s announcer guy), those silly panels he has with completely uninformed guests, and a perceived lack of thoughtfulness.

Glenn Beck is really good at is at least giving the impression that he’s trying to find answers, rather than already having all of them. Hannity seems to think he has, as Mr. Swindle (I think) calls it, the Truth.

]]> By: Tommy Barrios http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/09/30/bias-on-fox-news/#comment-14094 Tommy Barrios Fri, 02 Oct 2009 05:18:17 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=10030#comment-14094 You know what I think is funny, maybe even a little pathetic. Here we are on a major website on the internet, the greatest leap forward in the dissemination of human information ever, discussing the irrelevant and dead on arrival MGMSM dinosaur. This is really incredulous! You know what I think is funny, maybe even a little pathetic. Here we are on a major website on the internet, the greatest leap forward in the dissemination of human information ever, discussing the irrelevant and dead on arrival MGMSM dinosaur.
This is really incredulous!

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