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		<title>By: NewsReal Sunday: &#8220;Reverend&#8221; Billy Talen Exploits God to Further Leftist Agenda &#171; NewsReal Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>NewsReal Sunday: &#8220;Reverend&#8221; Billy Talen Exploits God to Further Leftist Agenda &#171; NewsReal Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] name is being thrown out there for everything from supporting President Barack Obama, to ending capitalism, to promoting health care reform.Â  Not surprisingly, many on the Left will simultaneously say that [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tommy Barrios</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tommy Barrios</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 18:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of Democracy! Can anyone tell me how many times the word &#039;Democracy&#039; appears in the Declaration of Independence, The Bill of Rights, or The Constitution?

If so please site the reference, because I cannot find it anywhere and neither will you.  The word &#039;Democracy&#039; was a bane to the founders because they knew from past history that Democracies turn into oligarchies by the wealthy almost over nite, i.e. the Roman Empire!

Now it&#039;s the USA!  We are a Federated Republic under law, NOT a socialist demoncracy, as portrayed and promoted by the Michael Moores of the world!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of Democracy! Can anyone tell me how many times the word &#8216;Democracy&#8217; appears in the Declaration of Independence, The Bill of Rights, or The Constitution?</p>
<p>If so please site the reference, because I cannot find it anywhere and neither will you.  The word &#8216;Democracy&#8217; was a bane to the founders because they knew from past history that Democracies turn into oligarchies by the wealthy almost over nite, i.e. the Roman Empire!</p>
<p>Now it&#8217;s the USA!  We are a Federated Republic under law, NOT a socialist demoncracy, as portrayed and promoted by the Michael Moores of the world!</p>
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		<title>By: jbtrevor</title>
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		<dc:creator>jbtrevor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joseph,
the term I should have used was &quot;representative&quot; republic and been more clear on the workings of government, not elections.
I think Moore was referring to how our government works rather than how they get elected.
Thanks,
Julie
PS, do I get the &quot;flying fickle finger of fate&quot; award for by keyboarding faster than my brain? LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joseph,<br />
the term I should have used was &#8220;representative&#8221; republic and been more clear on the workings of government, not elections.<br />
I think Moore was referring to how our government works rather than how they get elected.<br />
Thanks,<br />
Julie<br />
PS, do I get the &#8220;flying fickle finger of fate&#8221; award for by keyboarding faster than my brain? LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 06:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should have done all this at one time...lol.

Julie again said, &quot;7.  &quot;Why are so many Christian against helping the sick&quot;

No one is against helping the sick...we (Christian or not) are against taking every last dime we have and pouring it into a system that will fail +  eventually not be able to take care of anybody (rationing).  And a system that will succeed in making sure we are all enslaved to it.&quot;

I have to agree with Julie here, namely in that Christ said that it was up to the church to take care of people, it&#039;s not the job of government.  Also, Just today, they tried to slip in the old, &quot;We are going to let the illegal immigrant on to the health care insurance roles,&quot; and people wonder why we don&#039;t want any part of this nonsense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should have done all this at one time&#8230;lol.</p>
<p>Julie again said, &#8220;7.  &#8220;Why are so many Christian against helping the sick&#8221;</p>
<p>No one is against helping the sick&#8230;we (Christian or not) are against taking every last dime we have and pouring it into a system that will fail +  eventually not be able to take care of anybody (rationing).  And a system that will succeed in making sure we are all enslaved to it.&#8221;</p>
<p>I have to agree with Julie here, namely in that Christ said that it was up to the church to take care of people, it&#8217;s not the job of government.  Also, Just today, they tried to slip in the old, &#8220;We are going to let the illegal immigrant on to the health care insurance roles,&#8221; and people wonder why we don&#8217;t want any part of this nonsense.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 05:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julie, you mentioned, &quot;Our political system was never democratic...we have always been a Republic.&quot;

You are right and you are wrong.  Our political system is democratic, because we all get to vote on our representatives (Congress,) and our president.   We are also a Republic, in that our democraticly elected are supposed to represent us.  However, in recent years, they represent the people who have more cash than us, namely lobbyist and big business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie, you mentioned, &#8220;Our political system was never democratic&#8230;we have always been a Republic.&#8221;</p>
<p>You are right and you are wrong.  Our political system is democratic, because we all get to vote on our representatives (Congress,) and our president.   We are also a Republic, in that our democraticly elected are supposed to represent us.  However, in recent years, they represent the people who have more cash than us, namely lobbyist and big business.</p>
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		<title>By: jbtrevor</title>
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		<dc:creator>jbtrevor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Riven, in response to some of what you said (simply):

1.  &quot;CEOâ€™s laying off people by the thousands&quot; - yes sometimes CEO&#039;s lay off people.  Unlike the Government, they can&#039;t simply print money to meet expenses.  What you fail to mention is CEO&#039;s also hire thousands of people, provide jobs, training, opportunites, etc

2.  &quot;Sending labor overseas&quot; Yes, when Government interference/regulation in business, markets, interstate + international commerce, etc coupled with the stranglehold employee unions have on business decisions make it impossible to do business here, businesses leave.  Want that to change?  Get your Senator + Representative to get out of micromanaging US companies.

3.  &quot;have stagnating wages&quot;  Ditto the above answer and get rid of mandatory minimum wage.  When a company has to start people out at a higher wage it means they have less money to pay people who have been there longer.

4.  &quot; an influx of illegal immigrants reducing wages&quot;  All due to the Goverment regulations and controls listed above not to mention lack of enforcement of immigration laws.

5.  &quot; not because the company was going broke, but to make more money for their profits.&quot;  Would you prefer the company go broke? Then there would be no jobs, no wages.  It is the job of the company and it&#039;s CEO to make money.  In order to grow a business and employ more people, profits are need to make that investment.

6.  &quot;He also talks about our political system is no longer democratic&quot;

Our political system was never democratic...we have always been a Republic.  Unfortunately you suffer from Leftist indoctrination whereby the Government is the answer to all human conditions, regulates all life, and where only a few control the rest of us.

Most Americans want individual freedom and not have every aspect of their life controlled by the Government.  That&#039;s not the America Michael Moore sees.  He sees an American revised to his (Leftist/neo-Communist) ideals where there are no individuals...everything is everybody&#039;s, everybody is equal in outcome regardless of input/effort.  That exists in China, Cuba, etc where economic + social outcome of everyone is equal...equally poor {except of course those in control}.

7.  &quot;Why are so many Christian against helping the sick&quot;

No one is against helping the sick...we (Christian or not) are against taking every last dime we have and pouring it into a system that will fail +  eventually not be able to take care of anybody (rationing).  And a system that will succeed in making sure we are all enslaved to it.

8. &quot;or regulating the rich from taking advantage of the poor.&quot;  What in the heck are you talking about, really I want to know?

Julie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Riven, in response to some of what you said (simply):</p>
<p>1.  &#8220;CEOâ€™s laying off people by the thousands&#8221; &#8211; yes sometimes CEO&#8217;s lay off people.  Unlike the Government, they can&#8217;t simply print money to meet expenses.  What you fail to mention is CEO&#8217;s also hire thousands of people, provide jobs, training, opportunites, etc</p>
<p>2.  &#8220;Sending labor overseas&#8221; Yes, when Government interference/regulation in business, markets, interstate + international commerce, etc coupled with the stranglehold employee unions have on business decisions make it impossible to do business here, businesses leave.  Want that to change?  Get your Senator + Representative to get out of micromanaging US companies.</p>
<p>3.  &#8220;have stagnating wages&#8221;  Ditto the above answer and get rid of mandatory minimum wage.  When a company has to start people out at a higher wage it means they have less money to pay people who have been there longer.</p>
<p>4.  &#8221; an influx of illegal immigrants reducing wages&#8221;  All due to the Goverment regulations and controls listed above not to mention lack of enforcement of immigration laws.</p>
<p>5.  &#8221; not because the company was going broke, but to make more money for their profits.&#8221;  Would you prefer the company go broke? Then there would be no jobs, no wages.  It is the job of the company and it&#8217;s CEO to make money.  In order to grow a business and employ more people, profits are need to make that investment.</p>
<p>6.  &#8220;He also talks about our political system is no longer democratic&#8221;</p>
<p>Our political system was never democratic&#8230;we have always been a Republic.  Unfortunately you suffer from Leftist indoctrination whereby the Government is the answer to all human conditions, regulates all life, and where only a few control the rest of us.</p>
<p>Most Americans want individual freedom and not have every aspect of their life controlled by the Government.  That&#8217;s not the America Michael Moore sees.  He sees an American revised to his (Leftist/neo-Communist) ideals where there are no individuals&#8230;everything is everybody&#8217;s, everybody is equal in outcome regardless of input/effort.  That exists in China, Cuba, etc where economic + social outcome of everyone is equal&#8230;equally poor {except of course those in control}.</p>
<p>7.  &#8220;Why are so many Christian against helping the sick&#8221;</p>
<p>No one is against helping the sick&#8230;we (Christian or not) are against taking every last dime we have and pouring it into a system that will fail +  eventually not be able to take care of anybody (rationing).  And a system that will succeed in making sure we are all enslaved to it.</p>
<p>8. &#8220;or regulating the rich from taking advantage of the poor.&#8221;  What in the heck are you talking about, really I want to know?</p>
<p>Julie</p>
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		<title>By: Steve R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ditto!</description>
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		<title>By: Steve R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The NYTimes is being used as a substitute for toilet tissue in Cuba?  Wow -- they do something right there, at least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NYTimes is being used as a substitute for toilet tissue in Cuba?  Wow &#8212; they do something right there, at least.</p>
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		<title>By: MaryAnn</title>
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		<dc:creator>MaryAnn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is truly sad that there is such widespread misunderstanding about what Jesus taught. I think this misunderstanding is at the root of what ails our economy and our country. If people spent as much time reading and praying about what Jesus taught as they do talking about Him, most of our problems would be solved. Truth and reason, faith and logic, capitalism and charity (true charity, not government theft). It starts with God and the individual, entities that governments work overtime to destroy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is truly sad that there is such widespread misunderstanding about what Jesus taught. I think this misunderstanding is at the root of what ails our economy and our country. If people spent as much time reading and praying about what Jesus taught as they do talking about Him, most of our problems would be solved. Truth and reason, faith and logic, capitalism and charity (true charity, not government theft). It starts with God and the individual, entities that governments work overtime to destroy.</p>
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		<title>By: Stanford Linzey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stanford Linzey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is amazing that the the rich who have it all ridicule their nation and govrenment which made it possible. No sense of thanksgiving, gratitude and concern for their nation nor for the good of others. If and when calamity should strike or health fails them, it will be a far differerent cry.  Who will listen then?
Stanford Linzey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is amazing that the the rich who have it all ridicule their nation and govrenment which made it possible. No sense of thanksgiving, gratitude and concern for their nation nor for the good of others. If and when calamity should strike or health fails them, it will be a far differerent cry.  Who will listen then?<br />
Stanford Linzey</p>
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		<title>By: Winnie Hines</title>
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		<dc:creator>Winnie Hines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it weren&#039;t for capitalism, Mr Moore wouldn&#039;t have an venue for what he does, if it weren&#039;t already a democracy, again he wouldn&#039;t have that same venue to put out the rot that he puts out.

Mr. Moore, you are making big bucks with your garbage....and socialism is your game,  are you willing to share all the big bucks with the less monitarily enriched people of this country????  I DOUBT IT VERY MUCH!!!  But you continually denigrate the very country with it&#039;s capitalism/democracy that brings you such wealth... YOU ARE A RAGING HYPOCRITE!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it weren&#8217;t for capitalism, Mr Moore wouldn&#8217;t have an venue for what he does, if it weren&#8217;t already a democracy, again he wouldn&#8217;t have that same venue to put out the rot that he puts out.</p>
<p>Mr. Moore, you are making big bucks with your garbage&#8230;.and socialism is your game,  are you willing to share all the big bucks with the less monitarily enriched people of this country????  I DOUBT IT VERY MUCH!!!  But you continually denigrate the very country with it&#8217;s capitalism/democracy that brings you such wealth&#8230; YOU ARE A RAGING HYPOCRITE!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: The Inquisitor</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Inquisitor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And many of you will have to work for a year to make as much  money as the CEO will make today.  Is this democratic or even fair.&quot;

What is unfair about it? Some movie stars and athletes make as much in a day as I do in a year. So what? I never thought that was unfair. Do you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And many of you will have to work for a year to make as much  money as the CEO will make today.  Is this democratic or even fair.&#8221;</p>
<p>What is unfair about it? Some movie stars and athletes make as much in a day as I do in a year. So what? I never thought that was unfair. Do you?</p>
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