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	<title>Comments on: Horowitz vs Frum: He&#039;s Wrong About Glenn Beck</title>
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		<title>By: Ann Coulter is Right: Glenn Beck is Being Targeted for Destruction &#171; NewsReal Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/09/26/david-frum-is-wrong-about-glenn-beck/#comment-12847</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann Coulter is Right: Glenn Beck is Being Targeted for Destruction &#171; NewsReal Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 09:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] has had differences with Beck, our bloggers have found ourself on his side in most battles and have defended him. Â Beck has been favorable toward our work as well. Â But now that the Left has made Beck a target, [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] has had differences with Beck, our bloggers have found ourself on his side in most battles and have defended him. Â Beck has been favorable toward our work as well. Â But now that the Left has made Beck a target, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David Frum Continues to Promote Big Government Conservatism &#171; Prayer, News &#38; Action</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/09/26/david-frum-is-wrong-about-glenn-beck/#comment-12807</link>
		<dc:creator>David Frum Continues to Promote Big Government Conservatism &#171; Prayer, News &#38; Action</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 00:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] A number of NewsRealblog posts have recently taken David Frum to task because of his criticisms of Glenn Beck and his (Frumâ€™s) quest to â€œrebrand conservatism.â€ [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A number of NewsRealblog posts have recently taken David Frum to task because of his criticisms of Glenn Beck and his (Frumâ€™s) quest to â€œrebrand conservatism.â€ [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Joycey</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/09/26/david-frum-is-wrong-about-glenn-beck/#comment-12839</link>
		<dc:creator>Joycey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anyone repelled by Rush or Palin or Beck is not on our side.  Horowitz I am a new forever fan. Looking forward to searching through your work. Frum de dum dum.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone repelled by Rush or Palin or Beck is not on our side.  Horowitz I am a new forever fan. Looking forward to searching through your work. Frum de dum dum.</p>
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		<title>By: David Frum Continues to Promote Big Government Conservatism &#171; NewsReal Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/09/26/david-frum-is-wrong-about-glenn-beck/#comment-12846</link>
		<dc:creator>David Frum Continues to Promote Big Government Conservatism &#171; NewsReal Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Politics by Michael van der Galien    David Frum has rightly been criticized frequently here at NewsReal because of his criticism of Glenn Beck and by other pro-liberty voices willing to take on [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Politics by Michael van der Galien    David Frum has rightly been criticized frequently here at NewsReal because of his criticism of Glenn Beck and by other pro-liberty voices willing to take on [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Janet</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/09/26/david-frum-is-wrong-about-glenn-beck/#comment-12845</link>
		<dc:creator>Janet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Marylou,
Don&#039;t fret, Glenn himself took it very well as I recall, and even said much of it was true. I didn&#039;t read it, did see the cover.  Any exposure, even Time, is welcome.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marylou,<br />
Don&#8217;t fret, Glenn himself took it very well as I recall, and even said much of it was true. I didn&#8217;t read it, did see the cover.  Any exposure, even Time, is welcome.</p>
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		<title>By: David Swindle</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/09/26/david-frum-is-wrong-about-glenn-beck/#comment-12844</link>
		<dc:creator>David Swindle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s the end result of a policy that matters in judging it. If a policy would result in millions of Jews dying then it&#039;s an anti-Semitic policy. Paul might not have the intent of hating Jews, he might have Jewish friends, but if his policies were implemented then Jews would die and totalitarian anti-Semites would be empowered.

I used this metaphor on another Paul thread. It&#039;s a racist policy to punish people for using crack more than those who use cocaine. It&#039;s the same drug but one form is used more by blacks than by whites. Thus the end result of the law is that blacks are punished more than whites for committing the same crime. The end result is racist even if the law was not implemented by racist people. It&#039;s the same deal with Paul, Israel, and anti-Semitism.

Intent is irrelevant when it comes to politics. The end result is what matters.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s the end result of a policy that matters in judging it. If a policy would result in millions of Jews dying then it&#8217;s an anti-Semitic policy. Paul might not have the intent of hating Jews, he might have Jewish friends, but if his policies were implemented then Jews would die and totalitarian anti-Semites would be empowered.</p>
<p>I used this metaphor on another Paul thread. It&#8217;s a racist policy to punish people for using crack more than those who use cocaine. It&#8217;s the same drug but one form is used more by blacks than by whites. Thus the end result of the law is that blacks are punished more than whites for committing the same crime. The end result is racist even if the law was not implemented by racist people. It&#8217;s the same deal with Paul, Israel, and anti-Semitism.</p>
<p>Intent is irrelevant when it comes to politics. The end result is what matters.</p>
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		<title>By: Marylou</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/09/26/david-frum-is-wrong-about-glenn-beck/#comment-12843</link>
		<dc:creator>Marylou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 05:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I noticed that Time magazine, that notoriously leftist rag (Newsweek is even worse these days!!) had Mr. Beck on the cover sticking out his tongue.  Fine, but they labeled him a Mad Man.

Great!  I mean how do you fight that?!  but that&#039;s the name of the game.  So.  Let&#039;s sound off when and where we can.

I do not see Glenn as angry.  To me, he appears passionate, enthusiastic, but well reasoned and in control.  To some, the word &quot;mad&quot; even denotes a certain level of insanity and I hope they are not trying to imply that but my guess is that they may be.  I don&#039;t even want to read the article.  Who needs it?  except of course if it&#039;s for homework to become better able to influence others.

I am sure glad I have &quot;someone to talk to&quot; even if it is in the blogosphere.  Sometimes I feel like I am going to explode from frustration over things like this unfair and even nasty-spirited magazine cover.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noticed that Time magazine, that notoriously leftist rag (Newsweek is even worse these days!!) had Mr. Beck on the cover sticking out his tongue.  Fine, but they labeled him a Mad Man.</p>
<p>Great!  I mean how do you fight that?!  but that&#8217;s the name of the game.  So.  Let&#8217;s sound off when and where we can.</p>
<p>I do not see Glenn as angry.  To me, he appears passionate, enthusiastic, but well reasoned and in control.  To some, the word &#8220;mad&#8221; even denotes a certain level of insanity and I hope they are not trying to imply that but my guess is that they may be.  I don&#8217;t even want to read the article.  Who needs it?  except of course if it&#8217;s for homework to become better able to influence others.</p>
<p>I am sure glad I have &#8220;someone to talk to&#8221; even if it is in the blogosphere.  Sometimes I feel like I am going to explode from frustration over things like this unfair and even nasty-spirited magazine cover.</p>
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		<title>By: Marylou</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/09/26/david-frum-is-wrong-about-glenn-beck/#comment-12842</link>
		<dc:creator>Marylou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 05:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Clara,

Well said!  How can we do this? just keep talking and blogging and whatever else makes sense.  I believe with the victory in the Congress today with the govt health insurance option not making it out of committee we have then on the run!!  This is a new coalition...some Dems not going with Nancy and Harry, and instead joining some Repubs who apparently have found their brains. Rejoice! but keep moving!

Marylou]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Clara,</p>
<p>Well said!  How can we do this? just keep talking and blogging and whatever else makes sense.  I believe with the victory in the Congress today with the govt health insurance option not making it out of committee we have then on the run!!  This is a new coalition&#8230;some Dems not going with Nancy and Harry, and instead joining some Repubs who apparently have found their brains. Rejoice! but keep moving!</p>
<p>Marylou</p>
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		<title>By: Marylou</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/09/26/david-frum-is-wrong-about-glenn-beck/#comment-12841</link>
		<dc:creator>Marylou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 05:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I particularly enjoyed Highball&#039;s contribution.  Well written, interesting, full of info. My favorite part was calling DH the godfather of the rest of us.  Well said!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I particularly enjoyed Highball&#8217;s contribution.  Well written, interesting, full of info. My favorite part was calling DH the godfather of the rest of us.  Well said!</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Foster</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/09/26/david-frum-is-wrong-about-glenn-beck/#comment-12840</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Foster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 04:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If he only wanted to stop foreign aid to &lt;em&gt;Israel&lt;/em&gt;, then you might be able to claim some justification in calling him an anti-Semite, but that&#039;s not the case, as the most cursory glance at the man&#039;s record and writings will show. Labeling him an anti-Semite for the resaon you give is myopic at best.

And his foreign policy views are nowhere near those of the Left, who are perfectly content to engage in pointless wars as long as they get to be in charge (as witness the pretty much total evaporation of the left&#039;s outrage over our misadventures in the middle east since the advent of Obama). Lumping him in with actual anti-American scum like Noam Chomsky is insulting to the intelligence of your readers.

I stand by my point; absent justification, Mr. Horowitz&#039;s slurs against Dr. Paul&#039;s character are on a level with Mr. Franken&#039;s slurs against his; I don&#039;t see how Mr. Horowitz can pretend to be on some higher moral ground than Mr. Franken.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If he only wanted to stop foreign aid to <em>Israel</em>, then you might be able to claim some justification in calling him an anti-Semite, but that&#8217;s not the case, as the most cursory glance at the man&#8217;s record and writings will show. Labeling him an anti-Semite for the resaon you give is myopic at best.</p>
<p>And his foreign policy views are nowhere near those of the Left, who are perfectly content to engage in pointless wars as long as they get to be in charge (as witness the pretty much total evaporation of the left&#8217;s outrage over our misadventures in the middle east since the advent of Obama). Lumping him in with actual anti-American scum like Noam Chomsky is insulting to the intelligence of your readers.</p>
<p>I stand by my point; absent justification, Mr. Horowitz&#8217;s slurs against Dr. Paul&#8217;s character are on a level with Mr. Franken&#8217;s slurs against his; I don&#8217;t see how Mr. Horowitz can pretend to be on some higher moral ground than Mr. Franken.</p>
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		<title>By: David Swindle</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/09/26/david-frum-is-wrong-about-glenn-beck/#comment-12838</link>
		<dc:creator>David Swindle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Browse around NewsReal for our other articles on Paul (which it appears you&#039;ve found) and the comments sections of those articles and you&#039;ll get further explanation for the use of these terms.

In brief: Paul is referred to as an anti-Semite because of his foreign policy views on Israel. (Paul wants us to stop aiding Israel and become neutral in the conflict -- ideas which would lead to the deaths of thousands, perhaps millions of Jews.) And an anti-American because said foreign policy views are almost identical to those of the anti-American Left.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Browse around NewsReal for our other articles on Paul (which it appears you&#8217;ve found) and the comments sections of those articles and you&#8217;ll get further explanation for the use of these terms.</p>
<p>In brief: Paul is referred to as an anti-Semite because of his foreign policy views on Israel. (Paul wants us to stop aiding Israel and become neutral in the conflict &#8212; ideas which would lead to the deaths of thousands, perhaps millions of Jews.) And an anti-American because said foreign policy views are almost identical to those of the anti-American Left.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Foster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Foster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s interesting to me that Mr. Horowitz takes offense at Al Franken calling him a racist (see part one of this argument) when he says here, and in many other places on this site, that Ron Paul is a crank - and worse (there are links in a post here titled, &quot;Is Glenn Beck a Disciple of Crackpot Ron Paul?&quot;, to the phrases &quot;Anti-Semite&quot; and &quot;America-hater&quot; which are being used to describe Ron Paul, that lead to pages that don&#039;t mention him at all) - in exactly the same off-hand, &quot;of course it&#039;s true; everybody knows it&quot; way.

Until I read this, I had the utmost respect for Mr. Horowitz; that respect has been intensely diminished by these unjustified attacks on another man&#039;s character. Perhaps Mr. Horowitz hasn&#039;t distanced himself quite as far as he&#039;d like to think from his radical leftist roots.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting to me that Mr. Horowitz takes offense at Al Franken calling him a racist (see part one of this argument) when he says here, and in many other places on this site, that Ron Paul is a crank &#8211; and worse (there are links in a post here titled, &#8220;Is Glenn Beck a Disciple of Crackpot Ron Paul?&#8221;, to the phrases &#8220;Anti-Semite&#8221; and &#8220;America-hater&#8221; which are being used to describe Ron Paul, that lead to pages that don&#8217;t mention him at all) &#8211; in exactly the same off-hand, &#8220;of course it&#8217;s true; everybody knows it&#8221; way.</p>
<p>Until I read this, I had the utmost respect for Mr. Horowitz; that respect has been intensely diminished by these unjustified attacks on another man&#8217;s character. Perhaps Mr. Horowitz hasn&#8217;t distanced himself quite as far as he&#8217;d like to think from his radical leftist roots.</p>
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