Comments on: Russell Brand: The Clown Case for Socialized Medicine http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/09/15/russell-brand-the-clown-case-for-socialized-medicine/ Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:34:39 +0000 hourly 1 By: News You Need to Know 13Jan10 | Mega Glomerate Main-Stream Media http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/09/15/russell-brand-the-clown-case-for-socialized-medicine/#comment-40677 News You Need to Know 13Jan10 | Mega Glomerate Main-Stream Media Wed, 13 Jan 2010 18:33:08 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=8221#comment-40677 [...] Russell Brand: The Clown Case for Socialized Medicine [...] [...] Russell Brand: The Clown Case for Socialized Medicine [...]

]]> By: jbtrevor http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/09/15/russell-brand-the-clown-case-for-socialized-medicine/#comment-9725 jbtrevor Sat, 26 Sep 2009 12:09:09 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=8221#comment-9725 Gary Williams said: "Why do the citizens of these nations almost unanimously reject a return to the bad ol’ days of private payment and health care to those who could afford it?" Why do you spend so much time berating the health care "splinter" in your neighbor's eye and ignore the log in Canada's eye? Perhaps you should Google a bit of Canadian Health Care History. You might find that Canada has not only reversed the ban on purchasing private insurance; in the few years (approx 5) since it's been allowed privately purchased insurance and out of pocket payments account for nearly 30% of health care expenditures in Canada. And although it's a bit premature to extract reliable health outcome data since the ban was lifted my own observation as a provider in a border US state is that the health care access and outcomes of those with privately paid healthcare in Canada is far superior to those on the public dole. Julie Gary Williams said:

“Why do the citizens of these nations almost unanimously reject a return to the bad ol’ days of private payment and health care to those who could afford it?”

Why do you spend so much time berating the health care “splinter” in your neighbor’s eye and ignore the log in Canada’s eye?

Perhaps you should Google a bit of Canadian Health Care History. You might find that Canada has not only reversed the ban on purchasing private insurance; in the few years (approx 5) since it’s been allowed privately purchased insurance and out of pocket payments account for nearly 30% of health care expenditures in Canada.

And although it’s a bit premature to extract reliable health outcome data since the ban was lifted my own observation as a provider in a border US state is that the health care access and outcomes of those with privately paid healthcare in Canada is far superior to those on the public dole.

Julie

]]> By: Gary Williams http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/09/15/russell-brand-the-clown-case-for-socialized-medicine/#comment-9715 Gary Williams Sat, 26 Sep 2009 07:11:21 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=8221#comment-9715 So why do you suppose these kinds of misrepresentations aren't made about health care in Canada? Could it be that theclose proximity of both people and evidence ready to refute these assinine claims? Don't you realise they get their start in the PR departments of huge multi-national insurance corps whose sole purpose is to maximise their own profits at your expense? The US is the ONLY developed nation that still leaves the health of it's citizens in the hands of profiteers. Why do the citizens of these nations almost unanimously reject a return to the bad ol' days of private payment and health care to those who could afford it? You're being lied to when stories are transmitted over those viral emails that are sent to conservatives /only/, apparently due to their unique ability to get wound up over things that most people would dismiss out-of-hand. Canadian healthcare, while paid for out of government coffers, is NOT run by the goverment. All the doctors here are in private practices, they choose the treatment you receive, you choose the doctor you see, and the only time the government is seen is when they show up to pay the bill the doctors present them with. Period. That's it. But the bulk purchasing that this gives us drastically cuts down the fees that Big Pharma still extorts from individual people in need of their product down there. You pay almost double what we pay overall, and for much poorer national health stats. This idea that Americans pay more for superior service is another demonstrably false lie; again told you by people willing to let you die for a buck because...that's what they're in business for. It's absolutely mind-boggling how ready so many of you are to cut off your own noses merely to spite Obama and remain true to another myth the insurance corps floated. That's the one that says capitalism works best when there's no oversight of those engaged in making the trade deals. LOL! Gawd!! That's such an obviously self-serving meme they've floated, and yet you bite -- hook, line and sinker. Wild! And also the reason why social psychologists are so curious about y'all. So why do you suppose these kinds of misrepresentations aren’t made about health care in Canada? Could it be that theclose proximity of both people and evidence ready to refute these assinine claims? Don’t you realise they get their start in the PR departments of huge multi-national insurance corps whose sole purpose is to maximise their own profits at your expense?
The US is the ONLY developed nation that still leaves the health of it’s citizens in the hands of profiteers. Why do the citizens of these nations almost unanimously reject a return to the bad ol’ days of private payment and health care to those who could afford it?

You’re being lied to when stories are transmitted over those viral emails that are sent to conservatives /only/, apparently due to their unique ability to get wound up over things that most people would dismiss out-of-hand. Canadian healthcare, while paid for out of government coffers, is NOT run by the goverment. All the doctors here are in private practices, they choose the treatment you receive, you choose the doctor you see, and the only time the government is seen is when they show up to pay the bill the doctors present them with.

Period. That’s it.

But the bulk purchasing that this gives us drastically cuts down the fees that Big Pharma still extorts from individual people in need of their product down there. You pay almost double what we pay overall, and for much poorer national health stats. This idea that Americans pay more for superior service is another demonstrably false lie; again told you by people willing to let you die for a buck because…that’s what they’re in business for.

It’s absolutely mind-boggling how ready so many of you are to cut off your own noses merely to spite Obama and remain true to another myth the insurance corps floated. That’s the one that says capitalism works best when there’s no oversight of those engaged in making the trade deals. LOL! Gawd!! That’s such an obviously self-serving meme they’ve floated, and yet you bite — hook, line and sinker.

Wild! And also the reason why social psychologists are so curious about y’all.

]]> By: Dodgeblogium » Not shocking links… socialist realism… http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/09/15/russell-brand-the-clown-case-for-socialized-medicine/#comment-9714 Dodgeblogium » Not shocking links… socialist realism… Sun, 20 Sep 2009 01:21:34 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=8221#comment-9714 [...] Brand supports socialised medicine for the US and believes in the BBC lies about the health care in the [...] [...] Brand supports socialised medicine for the US and believes in the BBC lies about the health care in the [...]

]]> By: Lunch Break « NewsReal Blog http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/09/15/russell-brand-the-clown-case-for-socialized-medicine/#comment-9724 Lunch Break « NewsReal Blog Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:07:01 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=8221#comment-9724 [...] commentary on Kanye West’s rude interruption of Taylor Swift’s award speech here and [...] [...] commentary on Kanye West’s rude interruption of Taylor Swift’s award speech here and [...]

]]> By: Michaelle Maloney http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/09/15/russell-brand-the-clown-case-for-socialized-medicine/#comment-9723 Michaelle Maloney Wed, 16 Sep 2009 15:43:20 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=8221#comment-9723 Exactly, in the know! Minnesota got a clown indeed- I hope they are thrilled now with their new clownship leader. Exactly, in the know! Minnesota got a clown indeed- I hope they are thrilled now with their new clownship leader.

]]> By: David Swindle http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/09/15/russell-brand-the-clown-case-for-socialized-medicine/#comment-9722 David Swindle Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:06:31 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=8221#comment-9722 He WAS excellent in "Forgetting Sarah Marshall" -- one of the best comedies of 2008. My review here: http://www.wthr.com/Global/story.asp?S=8237908 He WAS excellent in “Forgetting Sarah Marshall” — one of the best comedies of 2008. My review here: http://www.wthr.com/Global/story.asp?S=8237908

]]> By: Mike Causer http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/09/15/russell-brand-the-clown-case-for-socialized-medicine/#comment-9721 Mike Causer Wed, 16 Sep 2009 12:59:35 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=8221#comment-9721 Not 20 miles from me at this moment, an enquiry is being conducted at Stafford U K, over the deaths of several hundred patients. Guess what? it's in secret, so the devastated relatives of the victims cannot find out what is going on. When it is completed, no one will be sacked. They never are. N H S own figures show that in 2006, 34000 patients died avoidable deaths in our hospitals. If you don't kill this bill you will suffer for years to come. Not 20 miles from me at this moment, an enquiry is being conducted at Stafford U K, over the deaths of several hundred patients. Guess what? it’s in secret, so the devastated relatives of the victims cannot find out what is going on. When it is completed, no one will be sacked. They never are. N H S own figures show that in 2006, 34000 patients died avoidable deaths in our hospitals. If you don’t kill this bill you will suffer for years to come.

]]> By: Walter Scott Hudson http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/09/15/russell-brand-the-clown-case-for-socialized-medicine/#comment-9720 Walter Scott Hudson Wed, 16 Sep 2009 09:11:49 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=8221#comment-9720 Brand was funny in Forgetting Sarah Marshall. I thought he was brilliant until I realized, after seeing him in several other contexts, he had just been playing himself. Brand was funny in Forgetting Sarah Marshall. I thought he was brilliant until I realized, after seeing him in several other contexts, he had just been playing himself.

]]> By: Chris Yogerst http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/09/15/russell-brand-the-clown-case-for-socialized-medicine/#comment-9719 Chris Yogerst Wed, 16 Sep 2009 03:05:54 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=8221#comment-9719 Very true...it is about power. When the right people hear these numbers, the arguments are powerless. Very true…it is about power. When the right people hear these numbers, the arguments are powerless.

]]> By: Julie Trevor http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/09/15/russell-brand-the-clown-case-for-socialized-medicine/#comment-9718 Julie Trevor Wed, 16 Sep 2009 02:40:02 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=8221#comment-9718 "It is hard to argue in favor of socialized medicine with numbers like these. " It's not about medicine/healthcare - it's about power & control “It is hard to argue in favor of socialized medicine with numbers like these. ”

It’s not about medicine/healthcare – it’s about power & control

]]> By: Kathy Shaidle http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/09/15/russell-brand-the-clown-case-for-socialized-medicine/#comment-9717 Kathy Shaidle Tue, 15 Sep 2009 23:00:37 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=8221#comment-9717 Actually, I've heard of lots of people dying in British streets, often at the hands of young thugs. That darn gun control! Actually, I’ve heard of lots of people dying in British streets, often at the hands of young thugs. That darn gun control!

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