James M. Pouillon criticizes father, slain pro-life activist James L. Pouillon, in online post
By Laura Angus | Flint Journal
September 17, 2009, 4:58AM

OWOSSO, Michigan — Dr. James M. Pouillon, a Grand Rapids podiatrist who had not spoken to his father since 2001, criticized him and the attention he’s getting in a post on a story about Harlan Drake, the man accused of killing Pouillon’s father, James L. Pouillon, on Sept. 11.

The whole nation is debating if Pouillon was a martyr. Here is what the younger Pouillon had to say in an mlive.com post on mlive.com on Sept. 13:

“It will be impossible for some to believe, but my dad really didn’t care about aborton.

He did this to stalk, harass, terrorize, scream at, threaten, frighten, and verbally abuse women. He had a pathologic hatred of women: his mom, my mom, everyone.

After my mom finally left him and he lost his favorite punching bag the violence and abuse that was always contained within our 4 walls was unleased on the people of Owosso.

My dad used the pro-life movement and 1st Amendments foundations to defend him, support him, and enable him. He fooled them all.

He was at the high shool because my niece was there, and female family members were always his favorite targets.

Again, my dad didn’t care about abortion. He wanted to hurt people, upset people. He enjoyed making people suffer.

His goal was to be shot on a sidewalk. His goal was to make someone so angry, to make them feel so terrorized, to make them feel the only way they could make him stop was to kill him.

His pro-life stance was the most perfect crime I personally know of. He hid behind the 1st Amendment and was allowed to stalk, terrorise, harass, be obsene, ect. These things are crimes. Offending people isn’t a crime, and having different political views isn’t a crime, but he committed several crimes over the last 20 years and got away with it.

Yes I really am his oldest son. Owosso is now rid of a mad man.”

Posted by DrPouillon on 09/13/09 at 7:03AM
It will be impossible for some to believe, but my dad really didn’t care about aborton.

He did this to stalk, harass, terrorize, scream at, threaten, frighten, and verbally abuse women. He had a pathologic hatred of women: his mom, my mom, everyone.

After my mom finally left him and he lost his favorite punching bag the violence and abuse that was always contained within our 4 walls was unleased on the people of Owosso.

My dad used the pro-life movement and 1st Amendments foundations to defend him, support him, and enable him. He fooled them all.

He was at the high shool because my niece was there, and female family members were always his favorite targets.

Again, my dad didn’t care about abortion. He wanted to hurt people, upset people. He enjoyed making people suffer.

His goal was to be shot on a sidewalk. His goal was to make someone so angry, to make them feel so terrorized, to make them feel the only way they could make him stop was to kill him.

His pro-life stance was the most perfect crime I personally know of. He hid behind the 1st Amendment and was allowed to stalk, terrorise, harass, be obsene, ect. These things are crimes. Offending people isn’t a crime, and having different political views isn’t a crime, but he committed several crimes over the last 20 years and got away with it.

Yes I really am his oldest son. Owosso is now rid of a mad man.

as for whether “People close to the situation” thought Pouillon had a dark side, or if that was just my peculiar opinion, here is a post by his son, who might have known him better than the publicity hungry activists in Michigan who send press releases to national publications like Life News. It was confirmed by the Flint Journal that this was written by his son.

This is obviously not ultimately authoritative, who knows what goes on in a family or the grudges spawned, but it is closer to the guy screaming in my face that the huggy bear the martyr crowd is pushing… It’s very sad, and we should pray for Dr. Pouillon.

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Also, you mentioned my frustration with the coverage as though it was a merely emotional response. My problem with the coverage was on principle as is my problem with people misusing this to batter a political opponent in a pretty cruel trick without any of the facts at hand. I have a problem with this, even when it’s one of my opponents getting battered, on behalf of a cause I hold dear.

As for taking your comments out of context, the only thing you said about Mr. Pouillon, acting as though the actions I described were merely “quirky.” Without the ability to read your mind, I had to assume that was what you meant.

I didn’t bother pointing out your criticism of my article came down to arguing that I failed to see that two wrongs really do make a right. Because Obama and company exploited Tiller to the nth degree, we should now take our shot.

By elevating this to the Presidential level, you and the others on this tangent are also giving MSNBC or the New York Times a shot at coming in here and dredging up some really ugly allegations I did not get into– and probably make some things up, besides.

I did not include everything I had ever heard, but the things I did include were not unusual occurrences from Mr. Pouillon. They were typical of his interactions with anyone he perceived as on the other side.

Last year, the Left celebrated the movie, Milk. What they always ignore in their agenda for martyr-making, is that a straight man who was the Mayor of San Francisco was murdered at the same time, but no one makes a movie called Moscone. They have a friendly mainstream media that will protect their myths. They will delight in tearing down ours.

We are already characterized by the mainstream media as being like Mr. Pouillon, I was trying to keep the pro-life movement from getting out on a limb with Mr. Pouillon so that CNN can cut it off. Look at how the demonstrators in Washington yesterday are being characterized. Let’s not give them actual justification for painting us all with that brush by associating ourselves with this dark man. Let them take up George Tiller’s bloody mantle, it’s not good for them.

But let’s not take a page– or three– from their playbook.

The best you have in response is to make some sort of ad hominem attack by claiming that I must not give a rat’s ass that Fuoss died because we’re talking about Pouillon? That’s beneath this web site.

The fact that LifeNews.com repeatedly mentioned Fuoss’ death in our reporting on the shooting notwithstanding, this is pretty unimpressive.

““Quirky” and “less pragmatic” are interesting euphemisms for taunting the child who discovered his mother’s suicide.”

Then you compound that by clearly taking my comments out of context when I responded to your points about Pouillon’s politics and general demeanor.

Of course I wasn’t referring to your specific allegation about this person’s mother’s suicide, I was referring to Pouillon’s general attitude and your comments about him going after pro-life candidates. But you knew that already I suspect.

Your article and comments have some points to ponder and I would otherwise enjoy discussing them with you. But, wrapped in these ridiculous attempts to paint me as some uncaring neanderthal, it just comes across as the typical drivel one sees as HuffPost when writers are unable to make logically sound points in response to well-founded criticism.

I hope your response to my comment above is not representative of the David Horowitz I’ve known and loved for the last two decades since my first exposure to “Heterodoxy.” DH was always one to attack liberal nonsense with wit and humor and a well-researched and reasoned argument, not juvenile invectives.

“NewsReal tells who the day’s newsmakers on the political Left really are – exposing their track-records, their worldviews, their key affiliations, and their agendas.”

Get back to your job and quit blasting your friends on the Right. When you’re ready for a real discussion sans pot shots, look me up.

To say that “no one who knew him well has made the same allegations” is just silly. I, for instance, knew him as well as most of the people talking to the local papers– many of whom drove hours to come to the candlelight vigil and had never met the man. Most political activists in the area are just choosing to lay low and let this blow over. Note the lack of pro-life State Reps and the like with statements in any article.

My inbox has been busy from people on the ground thanking me for this, who didn’t want to get in the middle.

Again, no mention of Mr. Fuoss from the editor of LifeNews.com. Imagine being the family of one of a small town’s most beneficial citizens and having everyone coming from outside to mourn one of the town’s most notorious and acting like your friend, father, or husband did not matter.

The fact that Jim Pouillon was shot while protesting is only somewhat instructive, since that took up a majority of his time, and is where he was most accessible. The same way that Mike Fuoss was killed in his office, and, undoubtedly, the next planned victim, a local realtor, who was not an anti-abortion protester would have been ambushed in his office, too.

If there is a pattern to these crimes, it is that Drake was responding to perceived insults to his mother. It is easily as likely that he hurled some of his invective in Drake’s mother’s direction as it is that Drake is a big Planned Parenthood guy.

But we wouldn’t want to wait for the investigation, would we? No, we’ll settle for “is said to have.” But even if that was the motive, the lack of perspective, of even a slight tip of the hat to the inconvenient other victim is outrageous.

The straw man that “this was no drive by shooting” (it sort of was, but I know what you mean) or random act of violence is beside the point. I never said that Pouillon was unknown to Drake. Only that Pouillon spent his life provoking people and not always over principle.

“Quirky” and “less pragmatic” are interesting euphemisms for taunting the child who discovered his mother’s suicide.

The next time the New York Times prints a story because it is “too good not to be true,” in their ideological prism, LifeNews will have little ground to criticize.

This wasn’t a drive-by shooting or a random act of violence but Drake is said to have killed Pouillon because he protested abortion at the high school. That is no different than the Tiller shooting, which the media and the Obama administration handled much differently.

That Pouillon was on the less pragmatic end of the pro-life spectrum may make his politics less effective but does nothing to diminish the nature of the crime. The same is true of his quirky personality or his allegedly crass nature, though no one else who knew him well has made the same allegations to my knowledge.

And Obama and abortion advocates should be challenged on Pouillon’s death. They exploited the Tiller death to the Nth degree and have been collectively silent on the intentional shooting of a pro-life person because of his pro-life views.

I appreciate the article and, while it appropriately makes us stop and reflect, it presents a false read of the situation.

“Fuoss’ family has said Drake’s mother worked at the gravel company more than a decade ago, and prosecutors said she did some work for Owosso real estate agent James Howe the third man authorities say Drake intended to kill.”

Anybody want to bet we are going to find out that Pouillon insulted Drake’s mother at some point?