Ban Ave Maria in the California Public Schools but Allow Islamic Prayers

2009 September 13
by Joseph Klein

 

Bill O’Reilly often discusses attacks on America’s Judeo-Christian traditions as crucial battles in the larger culture wars that are going on in this country.  Well, here’s something that I hope he features on The O’Reilly Factor next week.

The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals issued an opinion on September 8th upholding a public school superintendent’s decision to ban a student group’s performance of an instrumental version of “Ave Maria” at their public high school’s graduation ceremony.  The superintendent’s reason for the ban: because the song might be interpreted by some as an endorsement of religion.

Remarkably, this left-leaning federal court sees no inconsistency between its ruling several years ago allowing Islamic prayers to be said on a daily basis in public school classrooms, and its current decision to prohibit a one-time instrumental performance of a Christian-inspired musical piece.

What will be next on the list of banned musical compositions — The Battle Hymn of the Republic?

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  1. STEPHEN B. CAMPBELL JR. permalink
    September 13, 2009

    BE ADVISED:

    WE THE TRUE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE SAT BACK MUCH TOO LONG AND ALLOWED OUR BELOVED COUNTRY TO BE GROUND UP AND DEVIDED POLITICALLY, SOCIALLY AND RACIALLY.
    THE CONSERVATIVE RIGHT HAS ALL BUT GIVEN UP AND ALLOWED THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO COMPLETELY DISOLVE THIS COUNTRY INTO JUST ANOTHER THIRD WORLD DOOMED PIECE OF REAL ESTATE. WE CAN NO LONGER ALLOW IT TO BE SAID: “IT’S ALL BUSH’S FAULT”.
    THE TIME HAS ARRIVED TO ORGANIZE A SECOND REVOLUTION AND START BY SWEEPING THAT CROWD OF LAZY MISFITS OUT OF THE CONGRESS AND SENATE AND BY WHATEVER MEANS IT MAKE TAKE.
    I STRONGLY SUGGEST THAT WE KICK THAT PATHETIC RABBLE OF SO-CALL “UNITED NATIONS” FROM THE SHORES OF THIS COUNTRY AS THAT HAS TO BE THE MOST REDICULAS ORGINIZATION CREATED BY SANE INDIVIDUALS.

    AND IN CLOSING:
    TAKE AWAY THOSE TOP SHELF PENSIONS FROM RETIRING CONGRESSMEN AND WOMEN AND SENATE MEMBERS AND HAVE THEM PAY INTO THE SAME SOCIAL SECURITY THAT WE ALL HAVE PAID INTO FOR SO MANY YEARS.

    A TRUE AMERICAN PATRIOT
    ..ONE OF WHICH IS FAST BECOMING A DYING BREED.

  2. STEPHEN B. CAMPBELL JR. permalink
    September 13, 2009

    I’M STILL AWAITING THE ACCEPTANCE OF MY ABOVE BLOG.
    IS IT BEING REVIEW BY LEFTWINGED LIBERALS?
    IF SO, I DON’T STAND AN HONEST CHANCE.
    I’LL FIND ANOTHER VENUE TO VENT ON. THANKS

  3. Ronald D Scarborough permalink
    September 13, 2009

    A men, STEPHEN B. CAMPBELL JR. Thank you for speaking the truth. I hope what you said is what alot of people feel. Thank you

  4. John Davidson permalink
    September 13, 2009

    Next step, China will annex California and for a large sum, Washingto will accept.

    On wonders if the Russians have tendered an offer for Alaska.

  5. lucy permalink
    September 13, 2009

    once again….the Ninth CIRCUS Court…….where the clowns are NOT so funny!

  6. September 13, 2009

    Really, this is par for the course. While the Ninth Circuit’s opinion is typically outrageous, all you need to do to is go online to the California State Education Code to understand just how deep the state is invested in left wing indoctrination. It’s not some covert operation, but boldly stated in black and white.

  7. Robert Laity permalink
    September 14, 2009

    What a disgrace!

    Islam is NOT even a religion. They have NO right tp practice it. It is also anti-establishment clause/unconstitutional:

    http://www.nmatv.com/video/618/What-Islam-Is-Not

  8. Barry Koplen permalink
    September 14, 2009

    To which ruling does he refer when Klein writes:
    “its ruling several years ago allowing Islamic prayers to be said on a daily basis in public school classrooms.”
    I want to share it with my class on COntroversial Issues.
    BTW, what was taught to the students who spent three days learning about Islamic Jihad
    is the sugar-coated version. On September 11, 2009,
    my class saw the documentary, Obsession, and its truer depiction of jihad…

  9. Elaine permalink
    September 14, 2009

    The future clash will be between the Socialists/Communists and Muslims who will outnumber them by millions since they are the only ones having children.

  10. Robert Laity permalink
    September 14, 2009

    Muslim Demographics:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU

  11. oldwolves permalink
    September 14, 2009

    Hmmmm…. A left leaning court district finding for an Anti American (Being a Christian Nation) ruling. Wow, that’s never happened before!

    Whatever happened to the loony left’s belief in ‘wall of separation between church and state”?( Even if no such thing exist, but let’s not let facts get in the way)

    We have nothing less than enemies of God in our courts and government, that have a problem with the definitions in the Declaration of Independence, for their never ending crawl towards tyranny!

    They are making law with the times, with they believe will advance their ‘progressive’ beliefs, and then trying to go back to make history fit their latest ideas!

    Can you imaginewhat will happen if Obama gets his liberal supreme court?

  12. Julie Trevor permalink
    September 14, 2009

    Brought our 9th grader to private boarding school this past weekend. It was a bittersweet farewell knowing we wouldn’t see him in the morning messed up hair and all, but comforting to know that very little if any leftist ideals will be infused into the curriculum, extracurricular activities or meals!

  13. Judy permalink
    September 14, 2009

    Stephen, you are correct about the revolution. Become a foot soldier in a campaign. Volunteer, finacially support those that will represent you and most of all stay vocal and in their face. The liberals in this country have long used the in your face and screaming tactic to their advantage. It moved mountains for them. It is time we stopped being so polite and not challenging their positions and outcomes. We don’t need weapons, we have the ability to wield words and deeds to confound them and disarm them. We need one another in this fight. I urge you to not look for those with identical ideas to yours. Instead look for those with the same “core” values that conservatives have. The other stuff is fluff that clouds the true issue.I live in California and many of us are unsure as to what planet the 9th circuit resides on. Many of their decisions are so far out there, even the left is astounded. The islamic prayer thumbs up by the court is really no surprise. We also have a president that believes that if you play nice with extremists they will come around to his point of view and stop blowing people up. This is the long held mantra of the liberals. I’ll be nice to you and you will be nice to me. Now, let’s all hold hands and sing a round of Kumbaya.All together now.

  14. Judy permalink
    September 14, 2009

    Speaking of a revolution, I heard Glenn Beck asking us to start picking from the tree instead of the barrel. This is very true. We need to clean house and quickly starting with the next elections.

  15. Moss permalink
    September 14, 2009

    There’s much more of this kind of stuff in the links under EDUCATION at http://kwelos.tripod.com/subjects.htm

  16. September 14, 2009

    I can’t afford to send my boys to private school, but I give them as much education as possible. They see the red flags regarding issues that need to be addressed, like the removal of prayer and the Bible from schools, abortion, perverts, rewriting history, etc.

    – vja4Him

  17. MaryAnn permalink
    September 15, 2009

    It’s way too easy to blame the schools, the courts, even the evil liberals for the secularization of our schools and society. There really is only one reason values and morals are absent. We Christians have allowed God to be kicked out of the public square. The vaccuum will be filled with something, and Islam is on the rise. If all, or even enough, believing Christians stood up and made a loud enough noise demanding that their faith traditions be repsected and treated equally, you can bet change would occur.Since religious freedom is the basis for all freedoms and liberty, there would be a sea change in this country. And it wouldn’t be because of the courts. If Christians will not stand up for God, how can we expect that He will help us? America has been and will continue to pay a big price for our complacency.

  18. September 16, 2009

    Christians Bad. Muslims Good.

    That’s the Left.

  19. Robert Laity permalink
    September 14, 2009

    The Russians believe that we still owe it money for Alaska. We bought it from THEM!
    China owns interest in a large portion of America,now!

    http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin532.htm

  20. Robert Laity permalink
    September 14, 2009

    Patriots thrive here in the USA. You are one of them Stephen.
    http://atlah.org/broadcast/ndnr08-29-09.html

  21. John Davidson permalink
    September 14, 2009

    I sent my son to a private Christian school the last 3 years of high school to balance his education. You really had no choice and did the right thing.

    It is sad to think that we financiallysupport public schools, but have no say in them.

  22. Julie Trevor permalink
    September 14, 2009

    The bulk of the decision was actually his…when the school showed an Inconvenient Truth but refused to show “The Great Global Warming Swindle” he started becoming very solid in his skepticism regarding the quality of education he would obtain in public schools – I’m very proud of him.

  23. John Davidson permalink
    September 14, 2009

    My son felt the same way, too. It was important to me to let his mind see both sides of the world he was about to get involved in.

    He is 36 now and a well respected supervisor where he is employed.

    All too often parents stifle their children’s creativity with hypocritally nonsense.

  24. Joseph Klein permalink
    September 14, 2009

    Eklund v. Byron Union School District, 2005 WL 3086580 (9th Cir. Nov. 17, 2005).
    http://www.nsba.org/MainMenu/SchoolLaw/Issues/Curriculum/RecentCases/EklundvByronUnionSchoolDistrict2005WL30865809thCirNov172005.aspx

  25. John Davidson permalink
    September 14, 2009

    After reading it, I remark:

    Lumping all these asinine decisions that conflict with common law principles, would take someone a hundred years to separate and clarify their constitutionality.

    A legal system gone mad and an astute defense attorney’s delectable delite, provided he has the resources to read them all to find a ruling that suits his cause.

    We may have no choice but to “Burn the Volumes” and start with the original Bill of Rights.

  26. John Davidson permalink
    September 14, 2009

    If we can shame a few out earlier than that, it would make us all feel better.

    Presently, I am not hearing any raising objections…ah… there was one.

  27. Julie Trevor permalink
    September 15, 2009

    Jim, I suspect that if we eliminated the Federal Department of Education and used all that (wasted) money for vouchers to private schools for parents who cannot afford to send their children…it would be a great day!
    Julie

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