John Hawkins: I imagine so. Back to the peace movement for a moment, do you think the anti-war protests were objectively pro-Saddam rallies since keeping Saddam in power…
David Horowitz: I don’t like that term (anti-war rallies), they were pro-Saddam. There’s nobody who understand politics tactically better than the left and they fully understood that when they went out on the streets, they were helping Saddam. They may have given lip service to being critical of Saddam, but in fact they put their political bodies on the line to save his regime. That’s because they hate the United States more. That’s what defines the left in our times, it’s hatred for the United States.
John Hawkins: Where do you think that hatred of the United States comes from on the left?
David Horowitz: The left is a “crypto-religious” formation. It’s Manichaean. There is a principle of evil in the world that the left imagines itself to be redeeming the rest of us from. That principle of evil for the left is the United States, the center of world capitalism. If America would get out of the way, the left believes it could end racism, sexism, homophobia, poverty, war, and many other evils as well including SUVs (laughs).
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