The Nation Compares Health Care Opponents to Racists
From last week’s issue of The Nation, the flagship publication of the Left:
The White House call for progressives to ignore these Democratic obstructionists is not much different from Lyndon Johnson telling Martin Luther King Jr. to halt civil rights demonstrations in a South ruled by segregationist Democrats. Change never comes from following such advice.
This comparison isn’t an accident. “Progressives” continually try and cast the push for socialized medicine as the new Civil Rights cause, as though the inability to get taxpayers to pay for one’s medical care was in any way comparable to Jim Crow and segregation.
Just look at that above image of health care socialization advocates. One of them even has a sign that says “Health Care is a Human Right.” It’s a sentiment to which I — and pretty much all conservatives — would nod in agreement. Medical Services are indeed a right. Go in to an emergency room and they legally cannot refuse to give you service which will save your life. And that’s the way it should be.
Free Medical Services Paid For With Taxpayer Dollars is not a right. It never has been a right as our country has defined “rights” for over two centuries. And the push to make it a “right” emanates from a political tradition that stands in stark opposition to the one which has served our country so well for so long.
There are certainly plenty of arguments the advocates of “single-payer” have in their quiver. This “rights” arrow is not the sharpest or most accurate that they have at their disposal. Something isn’t a legal right just because you want it to be one. The Left is going to need to try something else if they have any hopes of hitting their bulls eye of convincing more than a third of the American people to support them.
The Left draws another argument from its quiver
Universal Healthcare needs a civil rights-like push. That’s where this issue needs to go. Healthcare is a human right. The rest of Planet Earth already recognizes this.
Political opportunists like the people who frequent this rightwing, “capitalist” blog (really? I thought capitalists believed in equality of opportunity & artists/entrepreneurs all having an equal chance to create & suceed, right?) wouldn’t understand that’s where the debate has to go before costs will come down and everyone will have access to a doctor and the healthcare they need in, as the UK newspapers, now call “the land of the fee.”
EMTALA was an act of Congress, and is not listed as one of our rights in the Constitution.
So for anyone to claim that health care is a “human right,” is relying on the ignorance of their audience on the law, and to extract an emotional reaction from the uninformed.
While I agree that no citizen should be denied emergency services from a hospital that participates in the Medicaire program, I do not agree that illegal aliens should be allowed to.
There are rights, then there are privileges and responsibilities. Providing health care for oneself or their family, is a responsibility, not a right.
As for what the left may or may not have in their “quiver,” lying to obtain their desired outcome, in this case CommieCare, is not a weapon they fear using.
first, here’s a url for a video that is eerily prescient from 1961 on the issues today.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRdLpem-AAs
Second- healthcare is not a ‘right’ because it takes away from the possibilities of far better healthcare for far more people as the free market system has provided. Just as it is unfair, that some people get sick and some get sicker than others it is not a right to have healthcare provided for everyone, except as it is now, in an emergency, but where people can get away with not paying and don’t go to jail for not paying. Which is why parenthetically that amongst the first acts and concepts of the ‘mandatory universal healthcare’ ‘right’ is the mandatory conceptualization that some people are worth saving and others- the aged, those with difficult to cure and save diseases, are not equally worth saving, but mostly worth not spending ‘resources’ upon. Universal disregard is more like the end result for the majority defined first by witholding from those who likely need it most. How uncompassionate and bigoted it truly is this failed universal socialist mentality.
The failure to thrive, that is part of the death panel mentality of the proposed universal healthcare is ironically never applied to the universal healthcare system itself. Since it is across the globe, a demonstrated failure then the same rules should have applied- it should have been abandoned and allowed to die.
But it doesn’t because socialism doesn’t just allow itself to pass- it almost always has to totally fail before it is shaken off.
The US is offical broke.. we have no money to spend on national health care.. I guess most people are to stupid to figure that out along with our politicans who are bankrupting our country..
Do everyone have a “right” to have a car, house, cell phone etc.? Yes, but they are not free. What is different about health “insurance” (a term also inadequate)? Nothing. We all have a right to by it. Using the car analogy, if we force everyone to buy a car, that helps the auto companies, gasoline suppliers, etc. Those that don’t want or need a car or choose to use a bicycle or motorcycle have been cheated. Those that need a car but can’t afford one must use an alternative until they can afford one. Same for health insurance- those that don’t want it should not have to buy it. There are many alternatives. This is what seems missing in the arguments. These alternatives are either take care of yourself, or use an alternative health approach which will not be covered in the universal approach, as they are not today.
Why aren’t alternatives covered today? Because they represent a threat to conventional medicine, drug manufacturers, and those that see drugs as the major means of dumbing down, controlling and culling the population. Alternatives on the rise include herbs, which are exteremely safe compared to drugs, which are high on the list of causes of death (interactions, mistakes, side effects). Vitamin/mineral supplements are another major alternative. Vitamin D3 supplements have been estimated to save billions because most people are low due to the sun scare, which is another fraud. Low vit D is linked to the rise in ADD/Autism, seasonal flu, many forms of cancer, pneumonia, MS, etc. This simple supplement has been suppressed for decades, in fact the sun scare was probably motivated by the financial benefit to the medical industry. Many herbal combinations are better than popular drugs for anxiety, sleep etc. and have been researched heavily overseas, but suppressed here. But that implies we need pill to fix us. We don’t-just good balanced diet and moderate exercise. Get rid of the high fructose corn syrup, GMO foods, high carbs, bad fats (veg oils – corn, canola etc are the worse believe it or not- too much omega 6 which is inflammatory).
We have a medical monopoly and behind all this smoke is a push to maintain it, since monopolies cannot continue forever. Drugs are big business. Vaccinations are dangerous and cause or increase many of the chronic illnesses. This is big money. To require this of everyone will increase costs incredibly.
We will be walking zombies if everyone started following the guidelines they push. I think another ulterior motive behind all this is to get the lower classes into a doctor’s office to get them on a medication of some sort and weaken them. They want to put cholesterol lowering drugs in our water! The problem is the research is finally getting out that cholesterol control has no good effect and many bad ones. It’s inflammation, not cholesterol.
We cannot trust the “authorities” any more than we can throw them. History shows the desire of a small minority to control the majority. Nothing different here. Our population will certainly become even more lazy, fat, dependent on Gov’t with universal health “insurance” to the point of collapse. It will be an easy target.
The shrieks of the Left notwithstanding, emergency care should be given to anyone who has suffered a trauma – work accident, traffic accident, etc. However, if that person is illegal, he/she must be incarcerated upon recovery and returned to their country of origin as the criminals they are.
Only people believing in a universal/world schadenfreude, therefore not believing in the the sovereignty of our nation and the very concept of liberty and the basic precepts set forth in the Constitution and Bill of Rights could possibly disagree. The coldly calculating and inhuman desire to “reform” immigration as proposed by the Democrats and, inexplicably, even ex-president Bush, i.e. give criminals (illegal aliens) citizenship, must be exposed and stopped for what it really is – an attempt to massively overturn the nation’s demographics in hopes of creating an unbeatable “voting” block to keep the Left in power for the foreseeable future.
No matter the arguments, they all obfuscate the salient point–that the bill or bills before us are (sorry David) swindles. The language is written by demons (I’ve tried to read sections, and gotten dizzy). The purpose of this plan is not to improve health care or health insurance, it is to control and ultimately enslave us all to the state.
There are plenty of much simpler ways to accomplish making sure that everyone has equal access to good health care–to reiterate some, removing the legal barriers set in place by our crooked congress to cross-state portability of health insurance, and to reform tort law. How about a national pool for catastrophic insurance, paid into by all who use it (let’s for argument’s sake say $10 per month per person, or about $140 billion a year if my math is right), that is INVESTED rather than thrown into a general fund, and can be drawn on for major medical by anyone. “Supplemental” insurance available to cover the large (let’s say 5K) deductible. And, add to that a mandate that EVERY hospital with an ER should have a clinic attached to it, triage the ER-worthy cases from the splinters and childhood fevers and get them out of the $10K a day high-tech ER and into a more appropriate setting–the savings would be immense.
In other words, I, citizen, simple small biz person, can think of many ways to improve the situation we’re in without “throwing the baby out with the bath water” as this stupid and unsustainable bill does.
I believe what is needed is tort reform and the governmet to clamp down on abuses and corruption within the present system. If they can’t control those issues, then what faith will we have if they entangle it any more than they already have.
Already hospital emergency room are requiring payment before treatment becuase the medicaide system is bankrupt.
And besides, any racism that is against the poor black people. Nobody else.
Eventually the Hitlerian Obama will resort to trying to entrap the “mob” rule when his impatience at the actions of these rallies drains his patience. He will come out and say as he NOW RALLIES his opposing force to OUR Conservative movement: “The rule by which gangs live allows no room for pity,” in a letter from von Ribbentrop, June 21, 1934, only eight days before Hitler rounded up over 200 opposition members of his own party and later executed them as “disloyal treasonists.”
Obama will be moving shortly and like Hitler he will know what to do if things go badly, when he starts to try to stop the Conservative wave with interventions. His greatest model can be observed closely through the 1934 eyes of a long-time ally of Hitlers’s, Herr Rauschning, who observed of Hitler after he had liquidated his enemies during the last days of June and early July, 1934: “He (Hitler) is discovering the workings of a mind in the grip of a passion for power which nothing can stop, and which each success pushes toward greater confidence, greater contempt for others.”
Obama intends to turn this situation to his own advantage. He will try to BREAK US with his union -Brown Shirt SA/SS thugs. Stand your ground wherever you rise determined and courageous! And when people counter Obama notice his pose: so like the Fuhrer’s his attention seems to be drawn elsewhere; for this is a chess game in which he must upset all our calculations.
Will his face radiate the joy of the man who won in 1934? Will Obama radiate joy? Will he say like the one back in history did to a packed Party contingent: “I’ve given them a beating (the conservatives, the relegious, the broken lawyers and judges, the Tea Parties, the right people) they’ll remember.” Will Obama with his mouth twisting into a smile say: What I’ve lost through the purge of the Conservatives I’ve won back by getting rid of those feudal plotters and their fellow conspirators.” History shows too often that Treason punished and criminalized Justice, till the followers of justice are carrion in the road for the black crows.
Some years ago, the Federal Government seized the Mustang Ranch brothel in Nevada for unpaid taxes.
As the law requires, the feds tried to maintain the Mustang Ranch as a going concern so the receipts of what had been an extremely lucrative business could be applied to the arrears taxes.
The Mustang Ranch was bankrupt and out of business in a matter of weeks.
If the Federal Government cannot make money running a whorehouse and selling whiskey, why would any sane person think that socialized healthcare could pay for itself?
Going to prove that there is no “off sides” argument on the left.
Much as they use it, you’d think…..
You didn’t really respond to any of my arguments.
Health care is not a right. Nowhere in the Constitution does it say we are guaranteed life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, and health care. There better ways to handle national health care, such as the Swiss system, but not the Obama care government run plan
You mean emergency rooms should be checking to see if someone is a citizen before they treat them? Please elaborate.
No, emergency rooms should treat every one with an emergency. Those that can pay do, and those that can’t pay wind up being paid for by you and I. What galls me is people who could pay but don’t and illegal alliens who are breaking US laws by being here, well, illegally.
Health care is not a right. Nowhere in the Constitution does it say we are guaranteed life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, and health care. There better ways to handle national health care, such as the Swiss system, but not the Obama care government run plan
With the exception of a clear life threatening condition, yes I do, if they can’t present a driver’s license or other state issued ID.
The reason I think this is based on the number of hospitals along our southern border which have had to close because of the financial burden placed on them by illegal aliens. As a result, the actual citizens that had been served by those hospitals no longer have them, either.
The number of uninsured floated out each day includes millions of illegal aliens. That burden should not fall on our citizens.
“a clear life threatening condition”? Often life threatening conditions aren’t clear.
I understand your legitimate concerns about immigration but denying treatment to illegal immigrants sounds like a recipe for political disaster. No party could ever run on that platform.
And the logistics of this just wouldn’t work. Present a driver’s license or proof of citizenship at the emergency room? Come on. A doctor or nurse has a Hippocratic oath. They’re not going to deny medical care to a sick person just because they’re in this country illegally.
And I’m not even going to get into the ethical aspects of it.
And besides, look at it this way: if they go to the emergency room then it’s going to be discovered pretty quickly that they’re an illegal immigrant. I imagine it wouldn’t take long for them to be deported.
I think this is the key argument on this issue. It cuts across the different ideologies.
You lose your life and liberty if you get too sick and can’t afford to go to a doctor. Having trouble with your brain? Better go to a doctor. You can’t seem to think coherently.
Sadly, your solutions, most all proposed in the past at one time or another, will never even be considered by the current congress. Even when the Republicans were “in control”, they failed to carryout needed changes in everything from health care to education. They simply started throwing more money at the problems, perceived or real.
First and foremost, tort reform coupled with term limits must occur before anything else worthwhile (and your suggestions are certainly well thought out and are among those worth considering) can occur. It will never happen as long as most of the current denizens of the congress nor the individual currently occupying the White House remain.
Very well said, sir!
And if our government is corrupted by the same force corrupting medicine, then there will be no reform. Tort reform means no more million dollar settlements, lawsuits etc.- less work ($) for the lawyers, which govern us. The drug companies are owed favors. The FDA is run by former drug Co people. Researchers, colleges etc want money from drug companies. The media is funded by drug ads. I really think the drug companies are the ones to benefit most, because it will come down to more people coming to the office for less time, so give them a “scrip” for their new “condition” they’ve been given. Out they go and back for more later when the condition worsens.
This is why everyone is mad; they circumvent the real problems in all aspects of government.
A very radical statement which has no credence.
Hitlerian? Calm down, my friend. No need to break Godwin’s Law.