Comments on: Is your average cop society's sentinel or is he a racist authoritarian? http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/08/13/is-your-average-cop-societys-sentinel-or-is-he-a-racist-authoritarian/ Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:34:39 +0000 hourly 1 By: The Humorless Left Can’t Take Jokes or Creativity in Conservatives’ Criticism « NewsReal Blog http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/08/13/is-your-average-cop-societys-sentinel-or-is-he-a-racist-authoritarian/#comment-4879 The Humorless Left Can’t Take Jokes or Creativity in Conservatives’ Criticism « NewsReal Blog Thu, 27 Aug 2009 03:41:33 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=4507#comment-4879 [...] though, gay rights isn’t the only thing that Terry and I can probably agree on. Regarding our previous argument about racial profiling, with Terry’s most recent post we have reached a consensus: I believe that the vast majority [...] [...] though, gay rights isn’t the only thing that Terry and I can probably agree on. Regarding our previous argument about racial profiling, with Terry’s most recent post we have reached a consensus: I believe that the vast majority [...]

]]> By: The Humorless Left Can’t Take Jokes or Creativity in Conservatives’ Criticism | FrontPage Magazine http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/08/13/is-your-average-cop-societys-sentinel-or-is-he-a-racist-authoritarian/#comment-4878 The Humorless Left Can’t Take Jokes or Creativity in Conservatives’ Criticism | FrontPage Magazine Wed, 26 Aug 2009 23:40:11 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=4507#comment-4878 [...] though, gay rights isn’t the only thing that Terry and I can probably agree on. Regarding our previous argument about racial profiling, with Terry’s most recent post we have reached a consensus: I believe that the vast majority [...] [...] though, gay rights isn’t the only thing that Terry and I can probably agree on. Regarding our previous argument about racial profiling, with Terry’s most recent post we have reached a consensus: I believe that the vast majority [...]

]]> By: Michael Gersh http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/08/13/is-your-average-cop-societys-sentinel-or-is-he-a-racist-authoritarian/#comment-4877 Michael Gersh Sat, 15 Aug 2009 19:29:13 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=4507#comment-4877 I think both sides of this debate have it wrong. This is not about race. It is about unbridled, unconstitutional police power. Why are we willing to allow police to search ANYONE'S car? What probable cause existed? How is it that driving on the New Jersey Turnpike is notorious for car searches, yet the discussion is about race? And Mr. Horowitz' comment with his point about airport security misses the point as well. What is the worst thing about being searched at the airport? Three minutes of inconvenience? Yet the real fear anyone should have when having his car searched at the side of the road is that something felonious might be "found" that arrived in the policeman's pocket. The vulnerability of a motorist travelling alone when singled out arbitrarily by the police is far greater than any danger from the TIA. And a light complexion is no guarantee of safety. Maybe the cop just doesn't like your face, your dress, a word you uttered, the fact that you are a Jew. Yes, most, indeed almost all police are honest people doing an almost impossible job. But it is made much worse than necessary by impossible demands being made on them by a citizenry that long ago gave up most of their liberty for a little temporary security. I am a white middle aged male who is in fear of the police when driving alone. I have been made fearful by bitter experience, not a momentary inconvenience at the airport. I am made even more fearful when I read posts like these that remind me that, when it comes to the power of the state, there is so little daylight between the right and the left. I think both sides of this debate have it wrong. This is not about race. It is about unbridled, unconstitutional police power. Why are we willing to allow police to search ANYONE’S car? What probable cause existed? How is it that driving on the New Jersey Turnpike is notorious for car searches, yet the discussion is about race?

And Mr. Horowitz’ comment with his point about airport security misses the point as well. What is the worst thing about being searched at the airport? Three minutes of inconvenience? Yet the real fear anyone should have when having his car searched at the side of the road is that something felonious might be “found” that arrived in the policeman’s pocket. The vulnerability of a motorist travelling alone when singled out arbitrarily by the police is far greater than any danger from the TIA. And a light complexion is no guarantee of safety. Maybe the cop just doesn’t like your face, your dress, a word you uttered, the fact that you are a Jew.

Yes, most, indeed almost all police are honest people doing an almost impossible job. But it is made much worse than necessary by impossible demands being made on them by a citizenry that long ago gave up most of their liberty for a little temporary security. I am a white middle aged male who is in fear of the police when driving alone. I have been made fearful by bitter experience, not a momentary inconvenience at the airport. I am made even more fearful when I read posts like these that remind me that, when it comes to the power of the state, there is so little daylight between the right and the left.

]]> By: David Swindle http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/08/13/is-your-average-cop-societys-sentinel-or-is-he-a-racist-authoritarian/#comment-4876 David Swindle Fri, 14 Aug 2009 23:59:08 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=4507#comment-4876 Thank you for your service and your thoughtful comment. Please visit us again. Thank you for your service and your thoughtful comment. Please visit us again.

]]> By: David Swindle http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/08/13/is-your-average-cop-societys-sentinel-or-is-he-a-racist-authoritarian/#comment-4875 David Swindle Fri, 14 Aug 2009 23:58:19 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=4507#comment-4875 Some of them do. Some of them do.

]]> By: oldwolves http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/08/13/is-your-average-cop-societys-sentinel-or-is-he-a-racist-authoritarian/#comment-4874 oldwolves Fri, 14 Aug 2009 18:00:38 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=4507#comment-4874 As a former police officer I admit to my shame that yes I racially profiled. I admit that I went out of my way to go after certain ' races' while I was doing my job. You know , 'those people'. When I went ,looking for 'mafia' I admit I profiled Italians. When I went looking for 'Westies' I sought the Irish. When I went after the Latin Kings I searched for...Latinos. I guess I am inherently a racist. Funny thing though. When I went on my racist rampages I found that the Italian, Irish and Latino communities behind me. They even had the audacity to thank my fellow officers for putting their lives on the line even though most of these officers were not representative of the communities they served. So tell me why does the black community, the most vocal of minorities, favor crime over their own community? Yes ,yes I know some blacks want the police to succeed and they want their community to be prosperous and thrive , but why aren't these voices given more credence then those of the race baiters? There are racist police officers. Without a doubt. I have worked in the South Bronx as an officer for over twenty years and met hundreds of police officers and I can swear on my sons souls that through out all that time I met two who would be considered racist. And still they did their job. They just did not like Black people. I believe that the black community has been sold a bad bill of goods for so long that they are finding it hard to accept the truth that they are no different from any one else. That they must have their 'own community' and their 'own schools' and their 'own culture'. Then demand equality! I know many black leaders that have found the American way have been called Uncle Toms and such, but I believe the secret they have found is they have removed the hyphens from their identity. They appose Africa - America for America. They Understand that their culture is better because they accept their culture as the American melting pot. Americans have the our Forefathers, Lincoln, Washington, Martin Luther King , Rosa Parks, and thousands more to look upon as American. A culture so diverse that no other country can even come close! Yet the Black community is falling behind. And now other communities are following suit, creating such monstrosities as La Raza. How long will the black community allow itself to be cowed into submission? As a former police officer I admit to my shame that yes I racially profiled. I admit that I went out of my way to go after certain ‘ races’ while I was doing my job. You know , ‘those people’.
When I went ,looking for ‘mafia’ I admit I profiled Italians. When I went looking for ‘Westies’ I sought the Irish. When I went after the Latin Kings I searched for…Latinos. I guess I am inherently a racist.
Funny thing though. When I went on my racist rampages I found that the Italian, Irish and Latino communities behind me. They even had the audacity to thank my fellow officers for putting their lives on the line even though most of these officers were not representative of the communities they served. So tell me why does the black community, the most vocal of minorities, favor crime over their own community? Yes ,yes I know some blacks want the police to succeed and they want their community to be prosperous and thrive , but why aren’t these voices given more credence then those of the race baiters?
There are racist police officers. Without a doubt. I have worked in the South Bronx as an officer for over twenty years and met hundreds of police officers and I can swear on my sons souls that through out all that time I met two who would be considered racist. And still they did their job. They just did not like Black people. I believe that the black community has been sold a bad bill of goods for so long that they are finding it hard to accept the truth that they are no different from any one else. That they must have their ‘own community’ and their ‘own schools’ and their ‘own culture’. Then demand equality! I know many black leaders that have found the American way have been called Uncle Toms and such, but I believe the secret they have found is they have removed the hyphens from their identity. They appose Africa – America for America. They Understand that their culture is better because they accept their culture as the American melting pot.

Americans have the our Forefathers, Lincoln, Washington, Martin Luther King , Rosa Parks, and thousands more to look upon as American. A culture so diverse that no other country can even come close! Yet the Black community is falling behind. And now other communities are following suit, creating such monstrosities as La Raza.

How long will the black community allow itself to be cowed into submission?

]]> By: jjet http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/08/13/is-your-average-cop-societys-sentinel-or-is-he-a-racist-authoritarian/#comment-4873 jjet Fri, 14 Aug 2009 14:05:37 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=4507#comment-4873 It isn't racial profiling as much as it is an accurate description of the suspects. Take a look at the FBI crime stats and let me know which ethnic group commits crimes way out of proportion to its numbers. Yes, I know it's my fault for keepin' a brother down.... It isn’t racial profiling as much as it is an accurate description of the suspects.

Take a look at the FBI crime stats and let me know which ethnic group commits crimes way out of proportion to its numbers.

Yes, I know it’s my fault for keepin’ a brother down….

]]> By: KansasGirl http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/08/13/is-your-average-cop-societys-sentinel-or-is-he-a-racist-authoritarian/#comment-4872 KansasGirl Fri, 14 Aug 2009 07:21:34 +0000 http://newsrealblog.com/?p=4507#comment-4872 Your problem Mr. Swindle is assuming liberals want accuracy. Your problem Mr. Swindle is assuming liberals want accuracy.

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