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		<title>By: Obama a Socialist? *Sigh* This Tired Argument Again&#8230; &#124; NewsReal Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/08/07/progressive-socialist-just-different-denominations-in-the-church-of-the-left/#comment-59373</link>
		<dc:creator>Obama a Socialist? *Sigh* This Tired Argument Again&#8230; &#124; NewsReal Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 01:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I blogged about this for NRB back in August. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Len Powder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Len Powder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 04:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From The Conservative History of the American Left by Daniel Lynn

“Just as Social Security absolved individuals of the responsibility to save for retirement, Medicare absolved them of the responsibility to save for medical care when they needed it most. And just as Social Security had dragged along Aid to Families with Dependent Children in 1935, the middle class entitlement Medicare dragged along the less popular welfare program Medicaid.

“The government picked up most of the tab for senior citizens’ medical bills (and the medical bills of poor people in the case of Medicaid), and not surprising to anyone who understands the basic rules of economics, those bills kept growing. The state had hoped to make medical care cheaper by granting senior citizens a subsidy. Instead, it had inflated the price and, in effect, given the subsidy to doctors. ‘Hospital prices, which had risen 7 percent in the year before Medicare, jumped by 14 percent in the year after and continued to rise, on the average, 14 percent annually over the next decade’, Allen J. Matusow notes in the Unraveling of America.

“…after Medicare and Medicaid the aged and the poor made more visits to the doctor and received treatment that they might have previously neglected.

“…What’s settled is that medical care became exponentially more expensive, not cheaper, in the aftermath of Medicare and Medicaid. As with so much of the Great Society, results did not match intentions.” (p.280)

“’I have never believed that those who are governed least are governed best,’ reflected Lyndon Johnson after his tenure in office.” (p. 279)

Comment: The ‘Great Society’ had only wetted people’s appetites. The Left and those on the dole could never get enough. They wanted more and more. One of the greatest flaws liberals have is the complete inability to understand human nature and a total disregard for history. With their feet planted firmly in the sky they can only see their utopia in the distance and nothing will suffice until they achieve that. They will never learn that their fantasy will always remain just that, but in dragging humanity towards that delusion, they produce dystopia in the real world. Today, December 2009, they want to usher in another program, perhaps the most devastating ever in our history, socialized medicine. Not satisfied with the damage created by the New Deal, mitigated only by WWII, or the damage unleashed by the ‘Great Society’ programs, assuaged only by the Vietnam War, these Leftist tyrants want to inflict even more devastation with Socialized Medicine. The Founding Fathers would have rebelled against all of this tyranny and suppression of liberty. We may yet have to do the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From The Conservative History of the American Left by Daniel Lynn</p>
<p>“Just as Social Security absolved individuals of the responsibility to save for retirement, Medicare absolved them of the responsibility to save for medical care when they needed it most. And just as Social Security had dragged along Aid to Families with Dependent Children in 1935, the middle class entitlement Medicare dragged along the less popular welfare program Medicaid.</p>
<p>“The government picked up most of the tab for senior citizens’ medical bills (and the medical bills of poor people in the case of Medicaid), and not surprising to anyone who understands the basic rules of economics, those bills kept growing. The state had hoped to make medical care cheaper by granting senior citizens a subsidy. Instead, it had inflated the price and, in effect, given the subsidy to doctors. ‘Hospital prices, which had risen 7 percent in the year before Medicare, jumped by 14 percent in the year after and continued to rise, on the average, 14 percent annually over the next decade’, Allen J. Matusow notes in the Unraveling of America.</p>
<p>“…after Medicare and Medicaid the aged and the poor made more visits to the doctor and received treatment that they might have previously neglected.</p>
<p>“…What’s settled is that medical care became exponentially more expensive, not cheaper, in the aftermath of Medicare and Medicaid. As with so much of the Great Society, results did not match intentions.” (p.280)</p>
<p>“’I have never believed that those who are governed least are governed best,’ reflected Lyndon Johnson after his tenure in office.” (p. 279)</p>
<p>Comment: The ‘Great Society’ had only wetted people’s appetites. The Left and those on the dole could never get enough. They wanted more and more. One of the greatest flaws liberals have is the complete inability to understand human nature and a total disregard for history. With their feet planted firmly in the sky they can only see their utopia in the distance and nothing will suffice until they achieve that. They will never learn that their fantasy will always remain just that, but in dragging humanity towards that delusion, they produce dystopia in the real world. Today, December 2009, they want to usher in another program, perhaps the most devastating ever in our history, socialized medicine. Not satisfied with the damage created by the New Deal, mitigated only by WWII, or the damage unleashed by the ‘Great Society’ programs, assuaged only by the Vietnam War, these Leftist tyrants want to inflict even more devastation with Socialized Medicine. The Founding Fathers would have rebelled against all of this tyranny and suppression of liberty. We may yet have to do the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Hate Mail of the Day: Understanding the Crypto-Religious Mentality of the Left &#171; NewsReal Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/08/07/progressive-socialist-just-different-denominations-in-the-church-of-the-left/#comment-4484</link>
		<dc:creator>Hate Mail of the Day: Understanding the Crypto-Religious Mentality of the Left &#171; NewsReal Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 19:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] thesis of my favorite Horowitz text, The Politics of Bad Faith. (He&#8217;s not the first leftist I&#8217;ve encountered who has done this.) For much of the Left they do not have political ideas or opinions. They have [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] thesis of my favorite Horowitz text, The Politics of Bad Faith. (He&#8217;s not the first leftist I&#8217;ve encountered who has done this.) For much of the Left they do not have political ideas or opinions. They have [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Sullivan Weighs in on Frum, Horowitz, Beck &#171; NewsReal Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Sullivan Weighs in on Frum, Horowitz, Beck &#171; NewsReal Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;ll be the first to acknowledge when conservatives go too far in their rhetoric. I&#8217;ve often checked people for labeling Obama a socialist. Obama certainly emerges from the culture of the Left but calling [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;ll be the first to acknowledge when conservatives go too far in their rhetoric. I&#8217;ve often checked people for labeling Obama a socialist. Obama certainly emerges from the culture of the Left but calling [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Humorless Left Canâ€™t Take Jokes or Creativity in Conservativesâ€™ Criticism &#124; FrontPage Magazine</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Humorless Left Canâ€™t Take Jokes or Creativity in Conservativesâ€™ Criticism &#124; FrontPage Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 23:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Properly defined it&#8217;s a political philosophy I very much embrace. It&#8217;s leftism (and its various denominations such as socialism and &#8220;progressivism&#8221;) which I [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Properly defined it&#8217;s a political philosophy I very much embrace. It&#8217;s leftism (and its various denominations such as socialism and &#8220;progressivism&#8221;) which I [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Humorless Left Can&#8217;t Take Jokes or Creativity in Conservatives&#8217; Criticism &#171; NewsReal Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/08/07/progressive-socialist-just-different-denominations-in-the-church-of-the-left/#comment-4482</link>
		<dc:creator>The Humorless Left Can&#8217;t Take Jokes or Creativity in Conservatives&#8217; Criticism &#171; NewsReal Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Properly defined it&#8217;s a political philosophy I very much embrace. It&#8217;s leftism (and its various denominations such as socialism and &#8220;progressivism&#8221;) which I [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Properly defined it&#8217;s a political philosophy I very much embrace. It&#8217;s leftism (and its various denominations such as socialism and &#8220;progressivism&#8221;) which I [...]</p>
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		<title>By: American Thinker asks when a liberal descends into Stalinism &#171; NewsReal Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>American Thinker asks when a liberal descends into Stalinism &#171; NewsReal Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is to make a grave mistake &#8212; and one that the Democrats can then exploit. This builds on the argument that I&#8217;ve been making, that to attack Obama as &#8220;socialist&#8221; is ultimately inaccurate and counterproductive, no [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is to make a grave mistake &#8212; and one that the Democrats can then exploit. This builds on the argument that I&#8217;ve been making, that to attack Obama as &#8220;socialist&#8221; is ultimately inaccurate and counterproductive, no [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rafe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rafe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;As amusing as the â€œObama Jokerâ€ image and â€œWhy So Socialistâ€ meme have been&quot;

Uh..no. It was lame. And it didn&#039;t make sense.

http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Snus</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As amusing as the â€œObama Jokerâ€ image and â€œWhy So Socialistâ€ meme have been&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh..no. It was lame. And it didn&#8217;t make sense.</p>
<p><a href="http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Snus" rel="nofollow">http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Snus</a></p>
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		<title>By: carterthewriter</title>
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		<dc:creator>carterthewriter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 00:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very well put, sir. Why don&#039;t our legislators deal with this problem? It stems from campaign contributions, I fear,  another serious flaw in the election process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well put, sir. Why don&#8217;t our legislators deal with this problem? It stems from campaign contributions, I fear,  another serious flaw in the election process.</p>
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		<title>By: RDVSR</title>
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		<dc:creator>RDVSR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 21:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tort reform would do much toward lowering costs.  Not only do the lawyers reap big fees, but they force providers to order many procedures to protect themeselves, plus pay humongous insurance premiums.   Texas has enacted tort caps which has attracted Dr.s there and reduced costs.

The rise in referrals that the government complains about would stop with tort reforms.  As someone said prior, &quot;this will never happen&quot;.  Where does that leave us?

I am one of the many seniors who is satisfied with the insurance I have.  My insurance provider and Medicade could survive with tort reform.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tort reform would do much toward lowering costs.  Not only do the lawyers reap big fees, but they force providers to order many procedures to protect themeselves, plus pay humongous insurance premiums.   Texas has enacted tort caps which has attracted Dr.s there and reduced costs.</p>
<p>The rise in referrals that the government complains about would stop with tort reforms.  As someone said prior, &#8220;this will never happen&#8221;.  Where does that leave us?</p>
<p>I am one of the many seniors who is satisfied with the insurance I have.  My insurance provider and Medicade could survive with tort reform.</p>
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		<title>By: carterthewriter</title>
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		<dc:creator>carterthewriter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 20:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once Lou got off the BIRTH CERTIFICATE crusade, he jumped right into the serious questions regarding health in this country. Most of the problems with health care pretain to the strangle hold insurance and pharmaceutical companies maintain over the legislators. and becuase most are lawyers, tort reform is out of the question.  Therefore, the real issues never get addressed or corrected.

Name calling is a smoke screen tactic to draw attention away from the scam in progress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once Lou got off the BIRTH CERTIFICATE crusade, he jumped right into the serious questions regarding health in this country. Most of the problems with health care pretain to the strangle hold insurance and pharmaceutical companies maintain over the legislators. and becuase most are lawyers, tort reform is out of the question.  Therefore, the real issues never get addressed or corrected.</p>
<p>Name calling is a smoke screen tactic to draw attention away from the scam in progress.</p>
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		<title>By: NewsReal Sunday: Finding fertile leftist soil for conservative seeds &#171; NewsReal Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>NewsReal Sunday: Finding fertile leftist soil for conservative seeds &#171; NewsReal Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 20:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 2009 August 9   tags: Ideology, News, Politics, Religion, the Left by David Swindle     My post from Friday about &#8220;progressive&#8221; media watchdog Media Matters&#8216; intolerance of CNN&#8217;s Lou [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 2009 August 9   tags: Ideology, News, Politics, Religion, the Left by David Swindle     My post from Friday about &#8220;progressive&#8221; media watchdog Media Matters&#8216; intolerance of CNN&#8217;s Lou [...]</p>
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